Why God does not exist, in one sentence.

[Hardcore Newbie]

what i was getting at, is god and people being on a much lager scale of course.that god created people and wants them to see him as king and lord. but instead and through out the bible his own people have turned against him everytime. so laws were put in place and rules as to weed out the good from evil. and it's a battle between him a satan whatever u want to call him. many names really to see who loves who, in a nut shell. i mean theres alot more to it than that but, god gave us free will and wants to see who loves him and is devoted to him and who is not. bottom line..

But you haven't gotten to it. This God's still hiding, at least from me. He's not giving his reasons for his rules. He still needs my love for some reason. I ask why he needs my love in order to avoid torture, or at least not have eternal life.

all will bow one day,so ur saying that some will/can survive this supernova from the sun and will be able to carry on on another planet...lol and im the dumb one

I never called you dumb. I also didn't say that reaching other solar systems was a definite. It's a possibility. We might have to try for other solar systems if this one becomes hostile. And who knows, maybe if we don't get out, we all perish from the sun. That's a possibility as well.

[Hardcore Newbie]

it's called sarcasm i was saying it's ok to believe in the big bang and ur considered using ur brain but if u believe in a master plan /god then ur a kid with no brain

It's hard to detect sarcasm in text, or at least many people find it difficult.

opps i see im breaking one of my own rules in my sig damn that does make me dumb...alil anyways

if you're inferring that I'm an idiot and I'm "beating you" with idiocy, then I'll refrain from talking to you. If you aren't trying to infer that I'm an idiot, please clarify, because it certainly looks like you are. If you're being sarcastic again, let me know.

[Pass That Shit]

Az the world turnz!!! :stoned:

To me, the flaw in science is that it ignores the wisdom in things evolving into a perfect environment. Things don't evolve perfectly like that without wisdom. Example, you say that evolution brought us the sun and the earth. But I say, by wisdom the earth turnz to work perfectly together with the sun. The wisdom in our universe is infinite, there's no denying that. Even if you want to say that there is no God, you have to admit that this "energy of life" that exists is wise.

And to hardcore newbie,
Yes, I'm saying that since he created the world, I'm confident that he certainly has more wisdom than the man he put on it.

[palerider7777]

But you haven't gotten to it. This God's still hiding, at least from me. He's not giving his reasons for his rules. He still needs my love for some reason. I ask why he needs my love in order to avoid torture, or at least not have eternal life.
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really i have if ur to blind to see it it's not my fault

[Hardcore Newbie]

Az the world turnz!!! :stoned:

To me, the flaw in science is that it ignores the wisdom in things evolving into a perfect environment. Things don't evolve perfectly like that without wisdom. Example, you say that evolution brought us the sun and the earth. But I say, by wisdom the earth turnz to work perfectly together with the sun. The wisdom in our universe is infinite, there's no denying that. Even if you want to say that there is no God, you have to admit that this "energy of life" that exists is wise.

Things worked out quite well, for us. it's a great environment, for us. It might not have been so great for any other possible beings in the universe who've possibly had these exact same musings, or possible beings that didn't make it this far. Not to that that I'm not happy for it, but if it didn't happen that way, there'd be no sweat about it, we wouldn't be able to discuss it. I think, given 14 billion years, pretty much anything can happen. There doesn't need to be an "energy of life", and it doesn't need to be wise. Though it is a possibility, as always.

And to hardcore newbie,
Yes, I'm saying that since he created the world, I'm confident that he certainly has more wisdom than the man he put on it.

I didn't ask if you thought God was smarter than man

Are you saying it's impossible to outsmart someone because they made you?

If it were the case that your maker must always be smarter than the offspring or creation, we wouldn't have computers to have this conversation.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

To me, the flaw in science is that it ignores the wisdom in things evolving into a perfect environment. Things don't evolve perfectly like that without wisdom. Example, you say that evolution brought us the sun and the earth. But I say, by wisdom the earth turnz to work perfectly together with the sun. The wisdom in our universe is infinite, there's no denying that. Even if you want to say that there is no God, you have to admit that this "energy of life" that exists is wise.

if you choose to ignore the billions upon billions upon billions of similar globes spinning through space, your assumptions have some merit. however; considering the possibly infinite number of planets floating in the heavens, random chance makes as much, if not more, sense as intelligent design. this egocentric view that humanity is the pinnacle of creation has given rise to an anthropomorphism of the infinite, what presumption. is it so hard to believe that such a collection of coincidences would occur somewhere within the immensity of the universe?

[Hardcore Newbie]

really i have if ur to blind to see it it's not my fault

Weird, I've given an open invitation for any "all knowing, all powerful" gods to show themselves. So far none have come. If they aren't all knowing, then I understand them not showing themselves, they may never have even known the request. I ask for all powerful beings, because if they are truly all powerful, showing themselves would take zero effort on their part. The Xian God apparently fits that description. If the Xian God is full of love, as most Xians would suggest, then it would reason that He loves me. I'm not asking God to bend to my will. I'm just asking for some conversation. If God doesn't want to converse, let it be known that I offered conversation, and He declined.

[Hardcore Newbie]

To all: Sorry for my post whoring today, I quite enjoy it tho. I'm just taking the entire mid-day to relax and engage in some good conversation. I'll probably be out of here in the evening, give you guys some breathing room

And yes, I realize the irony of making yet another post to apologize for post whoring :P

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Weird, I've given an open invitation for any "all knowing, all powerful" gods to show themselves. So far none have come.

i was rather irritated that i didn't get an engraved invitation, but i realize that it would have been rather costly, considering the number of possible deities you would have had to sift through. i'll be over on the 6th at about 3am to discuss my omnipotence and the exact details concerning your conversion to delusionalism. i'd appreciate it if you'd have a bottle of jd handy, running the universe into oblivion is thirsty work.
:hippy:

[Hardcore Newbie]

i was rather irritated that i didn't get an engraved invitation, but i realize that it would have been rather costly, considering the number of possible deities you would have had to sift through. i'll be over on the 6th at about 3am to discuss my omnipotence and the exact details concerning your conversion to delusionalism. i'd appreciate it if you'd have a bottle of jd handy, running the universe into oblivion is thirsty work.
:hippy:

The open invite was done a long time ago in the privacy of my own bedroom, using thoughts only. If you were an all knowing being, you'd have known that

Also, if you were all knowing, you'd know that I was unaware of your deity status. Cheers to deceivers