Is it really effective to KILL people for killing people?

[fasterspider]

Not enough people are killed every day and the world is over populating quickly. They need to let me loose so I can clean out the cities of the undesireables starting with the crack heads and working my way up the corporate ladder to the establishment killing any and all that look at me sideways.
Capitol punishment is a joke in this country letting people sit on death row for too long. If I had it my way, the death chambers would be rolling at an unprecidented level rolling people in and bodies out like there was no tomorrow.
Death to the establishment and any who oppose me.

[Garden Knowm]

it's clear that no-one you care for has ever been murdered by another human being, otherwise i'm sure you'd agree with the death penalty, i only wish they still had it in the UK.

Many many many loved ones of mine have transitioned at the hands of other men...

And the ripple of pain is excruciating and I would not wish it upon anyone.

NOT on ANYONE

If those who have killed are killed.. then the ripple continues..

Everybody has a mother, father, sister, daughter..

Should the ripple of pain continue?.

Should it spread ? JUST because I hurt.. should others hurt.. ?

IS this justice? LOL loooooooooooooove

iloveyou

[Wesley Pipes]

Many many many loved ones of mine have transitioned at the hands of other men...

And the ripple of pain is excruciating and I would not wish it upon anyone.

NOT on ANYONE

If those who have killed are killed.. then the ripple continues..

Everybody has a mother, father, sister, daughter..

Should the ripple of pain continue?.

Should it spread ? JUST because I hurt.. should others hurt.. ?

IS this justice? LOL loooooooooooooove

iloveyou

ok so was wrong, sorry

aaaaaaaaaand i suppose u have a point there, i wouldn't wish that on anyone....


but... if death is not a suitable punishment, what is?

is allowing a somewhat comfortable lifestyle in a prison a suitable punishment?
sure they have to stay there for years upon years or until they die... but they dont have to work or earn money, they don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and they don't have to worry about not having a roof over their heads... most prisons nowadays even have sattelite TV..... I don't even have sattelite TV and we're the ones paying for it with our tax dollars/pounds.

Many ppl who do get released don't wanna live on the outside, they have become so acustomed to life inside that they can't survive on the outside....

so what is a suitable punishment? (and please no-body say torture cuz u and me both know it aint ever gonna.. happen in most of our countries atleast)

[Professor Dan K.]

what do you suppose we do with those murderers? the only way i can see it being effective is to lock them up until they die, no chance at getting out. if not, and they do have a chance to get out, some of those people WILL commit the crime again, and that alone would continue the ripple of pain you speak of.

would you rather have more people continue to feel like you would at the hands of this murderer? or have he who killed your loved one, put to death? if he is put to death then i dont see how the ripple of pain can continue. perhaps on to his family? im sorry, if he killed someone he should be punished, i would think that being in prison for the rest of my life and death would be comparable because what are you going to accomplish in prison? nothing. what are you going to accomplish in death? nothing...

[Oneironaut]

I don't think it's justified to kill anybody unless they present a clear immediate threat to someone. Like, if somebody is lunging at you with a knife intending to kill you, it's okay to shoot him in the face.

What should we do with violent criminals? Well, if we don't want to just propagate more violence, we shouldn't kill them, and on the other hand we shouldn't just sit around doing nothing. The point of any punishment, I think, should be primarily to try to turn the criminal mind into a non-criminal mind, by psychological rehabilitation if necessary.

Locking up violent criminals into cages doesn't really help society, especially when they're often let back into society after several years of incarceration that just made them angrier and more psychologically imbalanced as their emotional needs were completely ignored in the cold heartless environment of the prison. That can only make things much, much worse.

The best way to prevent murder, I think, is firstly by combatting social conditions like poverty and homelessness which drive people to violence, secondly by providing free psychological care to mentally unbalanced individuals, and thirdly by distributing ganja as much as possible so people chill the fuck out.

[Wesley Pipes]

I don't think it's justified to kill anybody unless they present a clear immediate threat to someone. Like, if somebody is lunging at you with a knife intending to kill you, it's okay to shoot him in the face.

sorry man i just have to point out... i dont know many people who will rush u with a knife if u got a gun in your hand lol ( and i know a few psychopaths)

[MegaOctane12]

A rational society would have some purpose for people in prison. The fact of the matter is death is not a solution, ever. Rehabilition is the only answer but some people are too weak in themselves to accept and move on, that's why you will always get people asking for others to be killed because they want retribution served before them. Truth of the matter is, most of the criminal population can be helped and returned to civilised society given the help and time, but there will be some who can never walk free again because they would be a danger. Its important not to tar EVERYONE who's facing time, with the same brush, because that not only dosen't help society move in a better direction, it acts as a hinderance.

[fasterspider]

I was clowning in my last post on this thread but I will tell you now, I have been to prison and it is a damn good thing they have them. Because some of the people that I met on the inside, I would not want to meet on the street.
Death Penalties are doing society a favor by ridding them of truly evil people. I am willing to bet that most of you have led sheltered lives and do not know the 1st thing about real life but it is fucking scary and I hope none of you ever have to realize that life either.

[SwirlyMass]

have our criminals do all the jobs nobody wants to do, have them pave roads and work at the dump. make them clean our sewers and pick up all our litter. they should get to do the stuff that people hate doing because then it gets done and it punishes them at the same time. just have proximity shock collars on all of them so if they walk 20ft away from their captor they get 10,000 volts to the jugular and a few free shots to the head with a baton.

brand their foreheads for the ones who are in for life, that way if they escape they have no chance of blending in.

all the hot female prisoners will be used by me for personal purposes. and then everyone is happy.:stoned:

[MegaOctane12]

have our criminals do all the jobs nobody wants to do, have them pave roads and work at the dump. make them clean our sewers and pick up all our litter. they should get to do the stuff that people hate doing because then it gets done and it punishes them at the same time. just have proximity shock collars on all of them so if they walk 20ft away from their captor they get 10,000 volts to the jugular and a few free shots to the head with a baton.

brand their foreheads for the ones who are in for life, that way if they escape they have no chance of blending in.

all the hot female prisoners will be used by me for personal purposes. and then everyone is happy.:stoned:

This will be the way of the future, I've seen the running man