Quote Originally Posted by mrdevious
Regardless, the burden of proof falls on the person making the claim. and don't try to spin the logic into "but you're claming he doesn't exist". The world we live in without god is directly visible, detectable, and repeatable. The world that exists with a god looking over us is a claim, a concept, an explanation to what we can't yet understand. I don't have to prove something doesn't exist anymore than I'd have to prove the invisble flying spagetti monster doesn't exist. I can't prove ANYTHING that doesn't exist, doesn't exist. The only logical "proof" that's needed is for the existence of what you're claiming
agreed

Krogith, you must understand that we do not HAVE a belief. It is that we lack yours. And it is very difficult to prove the validity of lacking a belief. In fact every person lacks an unlimited number of crazy beliefs like the boogie man and shit like that. No one goes around asking us to justify not having these beliefs. And as mrdevious said, the burden of proof falls on the person making the claim.

Science cannot relate to religion so lets stop trying to prove it right or wrong with science. In science a theory must be falsifiable otherwise it is left to the philosophers.

This is why Freud’s work isn’t useful, because it cannot be proved wrong. His ideas explain Everything about the psyche but then again so does Adler’s theory. So we have two different belief systems that explain every possible event. At least one of them has to be wrong but we will never know. Same goes for religion, there are lots of different religions and most are inconsistent with each other. Therefore some or all must be wrong.


ps- I would say the rock would also have to be unlimitlessly powerful. Why can we only have one all-powerful agent can two not exist?
harris7 Reviewed by harris7 on . Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it? Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it? :confused: Rating: 5