Quote Originally Posted by Krogith
There is a huge sorce for you to goto and learn about and make sence of, It's called the bible. Doing reaserch and learning about God takes effort. You decide ither to place your effort in the serch for god or into other things.

Self intrest is just what the word means. You are decideing you know best and presuing your own path. If you truely want to know god you have to look and apply. It takes work. You choose to ignore that work or choose to follow it.

It has to make sence for you to belive it right? Well look into it and serch. If you choose to do your own path, then thats what your chooseing to do. God does not want people to just follow because they have to. He wants the ones who seek him out and put effort into why God gave Them life.

And being a Gift given to you, that you would not normaly have. Don't you owe God that Effort? He freely gave you life. Choose.

You assume much about me and my efforts Krogith. But I didn't come to atheism because I was raised that way, or it just seemed easy to believe. I firmly believed in god till I was 18, then I started asking more questions. When I believed in god I used a lot of the rediculous logic I've heard people use, but more often I'd just say "well such and such is so complex in this universe, it must be designed". But after a while I realized that I had to critically examine all the evidence, otherwise I'm just believing what's nicest to believe. I spent hours upon hours, days upon days, examing every argument I could find for the existence of god. And I can honestly say that no matter how hard I searched, no matter how many sites and books claimed to have "proof of god", I could also see some glaring leap in logic. I hate to break it to you, but most atheists aren't there because they just haven't given it much thought. On the contrary, the minority population of atheists exists because we were some of the few who had to question everything in depth and with logic and reason, and never believe simply because we wanted to, and never accepte an argument just because it reafirmed what we wanted to hear. And now I can honestly say after 2 years of trying desperately to find some logical evidence, that it's a lot of ancient mythology and nothing more.