Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?

[harris7]

I also like these thoughts, I shall present a small deviation.

God created the Universe
God is all-good, all-powerful and all-knowing
so, When he created the universe he had complete control over all atoms
And when he created it, he had complete knowledge of how they would interact
and With this knowledge he would be able to predict how these atoms would collide forever.
So At that instant god would know how everything will work out in the universe until infinity

If God has knowledge of the future, and complete control over the current.

Then does not god have complete control over everything, throughout time
does this negate some definitions of free will

[moorephened]

Ok so nothing about the stone?

Whatever, thats cool.

[Krogith]

I also like these thoughts, I shall present a small deviation.

God created the Universe
God is all-good, all-powerful and all-knowing
so, When he created the universe he had complete control over all atoms
And when he created it, he had complete knowledge of how they would interact
and With this knowledge he would be able to predict how these atoms would collide forever.
So At that instant god would know how everything will work out in the universe until infinity

If God has knowledge of the future, and complete control over the current.

Then does not god have complete control over everything, throughout time
does this negate some definitions of free will

Without god we will Die. We can Freely Choose to Die and not Follow His rules and standards. Thats Free Will, Being able to choose Death or Life. Only by Following what Jesus Tought and learning and Teaching about his Father Jehovah God, Can we recive Life. God Gives life to deserving Ones. Sin's wage is Death. Simple.



P.S. the stone thing is just goofy. he is not contained by physic Laws. He made them. They never control him.

[mrdevious]

Without god we will Die. We can Freely Choose to Die and not Follow His rules and standards. Thats Free Will, Being able to choose Death or Life. Only by Following what Jesus Tought and learning and Teaching about his Father Jehovah God, Can we recive Life. God Gives life to deserving Ones. Sin's wage is Death. Simple.

But how is it free will if god designed the entire universe, set every event in motion, and in his omniscience, knows the decisions every person will make? It was god's doing that formed the universe, and the earth. It was god's doing that humanity came about, and it was god's doing in regard to how every human being was designed, physically and mentally. Whether or not we believe in god depends on what factors formed our minds the way they are today. There are only 2 factors that can influence our possition on god, that being external influence which shapes our perceptions of the world (all of which god set in motion, and can track till the end of time). The other factor being the nature of ones mind, the internal mental processes that which put together logic in a certain order so as to come to a conclusion. If god created the order of the entire universe, knows what will happen to every atom, and because of the physical processes set in motion had my mind formed the way it is today, isn't it gods fault I don't believe in him? We can all say we have "Freedom of will" to choose god or not, but everything from the world I experience to the nature of the mind I posess is the work of god, and therefor god's doing.

[moorephened]

God is infinite. He can do anything. His powers are absolutely limitless. So in answer to the question - yes, he can make a stone so heavy that he cannot lift it, but only if he wants to. That is what I believe.

ahh, but:

Once that stone is created arn't Gods powers less than limitless? This is akin to saying that God has a limit on his powers.

It's a brian teaser.

[stinkyattic]

Yeah, i think it would be awsome if he made a strain that got u sooo stoned u couldnt lift yourself out your seat.. :dance: :dance:

Heh, that's how I interpreted the question too.

If a heavy stone induces creativity in creative people, and God being considered the ultimate creator, it stands to reason that this Being should benefit well from a spliff before work!

Okay, go ahead and flame me for my irreverence. =p

[the yeag]

haha as the popes representitive i take great offence from that remark stinky..i sentence you to 420 are fathers and 420 hail marry's.

~I don't care if it rains or freezes as long as i have my plastic jesus~

[stinkyattic]

i sentence you to 420 are fathers and 420 hail marry's.
~

Good luck getting that penance out of me; I was raised Unitarian Universalist!

I learned a couple Robert Frost poems at church, can I recite those instead?

[the yeag]

yeah just for you..i like the mending wall..wait is that robert service

[stinkyattic]

Yeag, I think you belong in this forum, especially with your new avatar.
Tends to lighten things up a bit, don't you think?