Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?

[moorephened]

Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?

moorephened Reviewed by moorephened on 10-12-2006. Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it? Can God make a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift it? :confused: Rating: 5

[MastaChronic]

careful man, paradox questions tend to create arguments on this board

[moorephened]

careful man, paradox questions tend to create arguments on this board

Perfect.

[mrdevious]

By asking this question, you're proposing a logical paradox which in and of itself can only exist in the conceptual form. Anyway,to create the stone which is so heavy he can't lift it, it must indeed possess a force which is stronger than god. So, the question really is "can god create an entity more powerfull than himself?". Since god by definition is infinite in power and omniscience, the answer is a solid "no." Not because of a limitation in the power of god, however, but only due to a limitation in the boundaries of logic. Hence, the paradox exists in hypothetical terms only.
(This is also why I never liked this particular atheist argument against the existence of god, challenging the concept of an omnipitant being).

I hope that all comes out making sense, I'm on a very strange, pleasurable, and powerfull high right now.

[moorephened]

For the record I did not pose this question as an atheist argument against God. Rather as a question that I hope will produce thought.

[mrdevious]

oh, sorry if I was coming off as accusing you of doing that, tha'ts not what I meant. I was just mentioning others using that as a side-note.

[Inferius]

"Can jesus microwave a burrito so hot, that even he cannot eat it?"
-Simpsons, Homer Smokes Pot episode.

[BluntX]

Yeah, i think it would be awsome if he made a strain that got u sooo stoned u couldnt lift yourself out your seat.. :dance: :dance:

[Hamlet]

The following sentence is true.
The previous sentence is false.

I always liked that one.

[LuckyNiner]

I love this type of question.

However, an even more interesting argument against the supposedly omnipotent and omniscient Judeo-Christian God comes up when you consider the idea of free will.

The majority of us, including those with an unshakable faith in their God, believe that, as humans, we have free will. We have the power to make our own choices, to decide what we will do, where we will go, and what actions we will take or refrain from taking in the near future.

Now, I'm making an assumption here, and that is that most people feel that they have free will. I'm sure there are some who don't, and this argument is only for the devout who do.

When you take into account the fact that the God so many millions worship is, according to their holy books, all-knowing and all-powerful. Now, I've taken this to mean that God exists outside of time and space. If this is so, then his infinite power contradicts the notion that we as humans have any sort of free will. At all.

Think about it. At this very moment, sitting in your computer chair, or wherever you are reading this, you feel like you have a choice with what to do in the approaching seconds. You could get up, turn the computer off, surf to another website, scratch your nose, or do any number of actions or nonactions that you choose.

Right?

Not so fast. While this may be true, if you happen to believe in the God I'm talking about, you really have no choice in deciding your actions. For He exists OUTSIDE of time, and therefore knows exactly what you will do at any given moment.

Logically, one must assume that the concept of free will that we all take for granted contradicts the existence of the God I've described.

This doesn't necessarily contradict the existence of ANY god, of course, along with the "Can God lose his keys" argument. It simply refutes the notion, held by so many, that the God they believe in is omniscient; all-powerful.

Just some food for thought. :-)