Philosophy of GOD

[harris7]

Since you're a smart ass, why would a police report prove it happened? Because we told them it happened?
What if you don't believe the report like like you don't believe the scriptures?

It's comical to me that you would instantly believe any other man except the men that wrote the Word of God. It's obvious that you guys automatically disregard the Word cause it's the Word not cause you have any facts that prove it wrong.

you are jumping to conclusions and very quickly too

did you know that eye witness accounts are actually very inaccurate

essentially your argument is that:
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It is written in the Bible

so they it true
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correct?

If so, do you not at least doubt or question the accuracy or validity of these statements.

Do you wonder if someone has changed them over time. What about the different translations of the bible, have you read these, are they the same?

Is it conceivable that this book was written 1500 years ago, and only says it is older

Is it possible that someone in a position of power wanted to capitalize on the beliefs of say a country, so he changed the bible so he could use it to better control them.

Do you find it strange that the â??truthâ?� happens to be the best method of controlling a large population?

[MastaChronic]

okay, heres something
if an old dirty man walked up to you and told you he was god, would you believe him? how could you prove he wasnt god? how could he prove he was? what if he was and you disbelieved? what if he was just some crazy bum who had too much to drink and you did think he was god? you couldnt really prove or disprove him, so would you believe that this man is god?
i think everyone here would agree to believe in god if he came down to earth, just for a few minutes and let EVERYBODY on earth know he existed we would have a lot of believers, but what if some people didnt believe he was god? could the believers prove he was god and then convince that god is real? god is a human invention, much like the wheel in that no matter what it will keep on going, god is like similazation of the never ending argumentitive nature of human beings, but still a human invention.

[harris7]

so they it true. YUp i passed engish

how about So it is True

[JaggedEdge]

"If someone pointed a gun to your head, I assume you would call the police. If you notified the police, they would fill out a report. You would than be able to pick up that report from the police station resulting in solid proof your were held up. Lets face it, if you don't call the cops after something like that, your a dumbass."


It did happen to me recently, and I DID NOT go to the PO-PO. My nephew got his front teeth knocked out and his health was my only concern. I brought him to my house and took care of him and let him sleep at my place so his mom wouldn't lecture him while he was in pain. My sister did say that they did follow up and make a report the following day.

Since you're a smart ass, why would a police report prove it happened? Because we told them it happened? What if you don't believe the report like like you don't believe the scriptures? It's comical to me that you would instantly believe any other man except the men that wrote the Word of God. It's obvious that you guys automatically disregard the Word cause it's the Word not cause you have any facts that prove it wrong.

Are you guys any less confident than I am in your beliefs? If you are, you should keep seeking until you find the TRUTH.

First let me say, I am currently quiting smoking (cigs) and I have been being an asshole to everyone today. No offense meant to you, but after reading it just now I realized I did sound like a complete ass.

But like you said in your post just because it is in the police report doesn't mean it happend. For me this goes towards the bible as well, just because it is written doesn't make it true. Faith in the bible I suppose would require one to believe it was written by god. Since I don't believe it was written by god, what it says is nothing more than ancient literature.

"It's obvious that you guys automatically disregard the Word cause it's the Word not cause you have any facts that prove it wrong."

Look, here is the bottom line. I do not believe it is the word of God and of course I do not have solid proof to back it up same as you have no solid proof it is god's word. It isn't logical for me to believe in god or in the bible. It is nothing but folklore to me.

And I may not have proof but there are many things that suggest the bible isn't accurate.

Let me ask you this.

If the bible is the word of god, than why did men have the right to determine what books were worthy of making it into the final print? There were more passages written then those that appear in the bible. If god did write all these books than shouldn't all of them been worthy? My thinking is that certain scriptures didn't benifit the church and so they were left out.


But again, sorry for being an ass earlier. Sometimes I get carried away.

[harris7]

Sorry to go on without any response


“If God says that he created the heaven and the earth, and you say nay, there's no way around avoiding that you are calling him a liar. But then again, is it possible to call someone a liar if you don't even believe he exists? I guess your belief is the lie itself.”

I think that all of your statements are based on the existence of god, obviously because you believe this. The problem for me is that your arguments is also based on this. See above. What you said is utter nonsense unless you believe in god. It is called a circular argument were your conclusion is your premise. for example

premise 1: God exists
premise 2: God says he exists
Premise 3: No one has the right to challenge God
Conclusion: Thus God exists

No one will challenge premise 2 and 3

[JaggedEdge]

haha i didn't mean for that many smiley faces...

[harris7]

put me in a good mood. it is kinda funny how we are having the same argument in two different threads

[MastaChronic]

They're superstitious, they have these beliefs, these primitive, you know, people believe in a god... I mean they're just really kind of credulous, and gullible. People believe in, for instance, hell and angels, okay, these are very primitive, very, very backward to me, backward sounding beliefs, these are child-like, and that's the key, because they get you when you're a kid, they get you when you're little, and they tell you there's a God, and if you can make people believe, I believe this, if you can make someone believe that there's an invisible man, living in the sky, who's watching everything you do, and keeping count of everything you do, which is good and which is bad, then you can make that person believe anything after that, you can add anything you want, the 4th of July shit just rolls right in, land of the free, home of the brave, the press is fair and impartial, justice is blind, all men are created equal, your vote is important, the United States government is on your side, the army is here to keep the peace, the police are on your side...Oh, and freedom of choice, this is the big one, the illusion of choice, we're led to feel free by the exercise of meaningless choices. There are, for instance, important things -- not too many choices, unimportant things-ice cream flavors, what do you want, we've got 31, the flavor of the week, the flavor of the month, but political parties-we're down to two, jeez. Sources of information, media companies down to five, banks, insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, chemical companies, oil companies-used to be seven, down to three, pretty soon it's gonna be two. But if you’re lookin' for a bagel or a fuckin' donut, hey, what do you want-pineapple supreme, hazelnut; we've got everything you want. Cereals, I counted, personally in the store counted 192 different cereal choices, 192. 140 different cat foods, I counted, and that includes a tartar-control cat food for senior citizen cats, okay?

[Pass That Shit]

MastaChronic,

For your information, the LORD revealed himself to me when I was 21. And I wasn't part of any religion at the time. So at least "they" didn't get me when I was young. When I was young, I used to cut sunday school and go shoot billiards :thumbsup:

When they tried to get me young, I ran from them. But when the work is wrought in the LORD, you can't run from him. You have no choice but to believe and follow. If the Spirit of God was not inside me, I wouldn't believe either. That's why I'm well aware that I can't convince anyone. Cause no one was able to convince me until the LORD came to me. :dance:

[mrdevious]

MastaChronic,

For your information, the LORD revealed himself to me when I was 21. And I wasn't part of any religion at the time. So at least "they" didn't get me when I was young. When I was young, I used to cut sunday school and go shoot billiards :thumbsup:

When they tried to get me young, I ran from them. But when the work is wrought in the LORD, you can't run from him. You have no choice but to believe and follow. If the Spirit of God was not inside me, I wouldn't believe either. That's why I'm well aware that I can't convince anyone. Cause no one was able to convince me until the LORD came to me. :dance:

who's to say a neuro-chemical change didn't come to you? You can "feel" the prescence of the lord, but then psychadelics can make you feel just about anything. In fact, the mental processes that go through our brains can convince us beyond any doubt whatsoever, that what we're feeling is genuine. Even the concept of a feeling being real or genuine is a chemical and micro-electricical reaction.
I guess I don't really expect to change your opinion on it, you can't change anybodies opinion once they devote thier minds to a belief in the supernatural, but something to think about none-the-less. At least you're one of the reasonable and intelligent believers, that's gotta count for something.