psychocat, it was directed at Torog, I agree with your points, and agree that Bush hid behind the evangelical crusade mentality as well as the Orwellian "foreign threat" mechanism in order to gain support for violent uncalled for attacks just to serve his own agenda- No different than the terrorists he's supposed to be fighting. Now torog, I understand the influence that oil has over the economy- indeed that's why Bush is refusing at this very moment to ease up the oil-price choke hold on the world by releasing some of the US strategic oil reserves. THIS kind of self-interest and selfishness can be understood- while I don't respect it- it is indeed America's right to use those reserves when they will benefit America the most. America, however, does NOT have the right to OCCUPY and INVADE a SOVREIGN nation just to protect their own economic interests. If the only immanent threat was economic, I think we've just highlighted the avarice-driven nature of your current administration, NOT justified a war. If you can with a clean conscience consider 100,000 Iraqi deaths a reasonable means to the end of keeping your economy that little bit stronger, then all your "principles" that your faith is supposedly teaching you are as corrupt as Bush's. Peace.