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    #31
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    rootone?

    east coast. and its cold, cold tonite. i got some safer's insecticidal soap today, but didn't use it. i gess this mornings 50 degrees ran them off. i will spray tomorrow regardless. question... if i put all 8 plants in the flower box, but only have half the light i need, will i cause any stress or damage? it would only be for a day or 2, but i'd like to run them all at the same time for log/experimental purposes (tried lots of new lst techniques, cool new tricks lerned thread for the future)

    current light setup for 1,2,7,8 is 2 48" k and b bulbs 3600lum ea, and 3 23w cfl's 1600 lum. if i put the other four in there tonite, i'll also add another double 48'', but this one has daylight bulbs(6500k) 3050lum

    so total lumens until i get the rest of my lights would be 18,100lumens. will this suffice until i get more light? my plan is 11 cfl's, and 8 flo bulbs. this would be a total of 46,400 lumens, if i did my math right.

    please let me know. if i had more money to work with at one time, i'd go for an hps or two, but as it stands, i can only add stuff to what i have now.

    so far flo's have done remarkably well, and i've seen pics and thread of others who have used them the whole grow. all i can say is that if it doesn't work well this time, i'll get hps for next grow.

    thanks bear. talk to you soon

    love, brooke
    grow, or grow not. there is no try.:thumbsup:

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    #32
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    rootone?

    ps, ment to say the bugs were gone this morning, but i spaced it. also, the least amount of light that i'll be running for flower is 8 cfl's and 4 48'' k and b bulbs. total of 27,200 lumens
    grow, or grow not. there is no try.:thumbsup:

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    #33
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    rootone?

    Hi Brook,

    sorry i have been really busy..

    PCTURES!!! : )

    You know, even if it is the worst bugs in the world... spidermites.. you have one thing going for you.. THE cold.. MANY bugs including spidermites hybernate in the winter and that means they don't eat or multiply.. all it takes usually is for the temperature to drop below 50-60 degrees.. on the other hand, you rplant is probably not digging the cold temps to much either..

    I would proceed with CAUTION spraying anything on plants that are flowering.. especially if they have buds...

    two reason... MOLD and Poison.. I would rather smoke bugs than poison..

    I am sorry if you answered this already...

    But are the bugs actually causing any visible damage?

    iloveyou

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    #34
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    rootone?

    dear knowm,
    there is absolutely no damage to the plant whatsoever, its almost like they met up and said hey, there's a cool crib!. and jumped on. last night the temps got down to 51 degrees in my crawl space. this morning, the bugs were gone. i'll try the soap if i have to, i'm just worried bc this plant still has 3 or 4 weeks left to harvest. oh yeah, the words in the instructions sound like it was made for pot. "spray on affected buds" "use until and even on day of harvest" etc.


    as for pics. i have a friend that will let me use her camera if she can ever find the computer cable for it. i'd love to show these guys off.

    thankx knowm,

    did you see my question about lights? would love some input so i can budget it out this week. thanks again!

    love, brooke
    grow, or grow not. there is no try.:thumbsup:

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    #35
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    rootone?

    Hi Brooke,

    If you have 8 plants... and they are how tall??

    You will ideally need 2 - 42 watt CFLs per plant... minimum..

    Keep the plants close together and surround them with the CFls.. the CFLs should be no further than 1 inch from your plants...

    i am excited to see the pictures?

    what state are you in?

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    #36
    Senior Member

    rootone?

    in sc. if possible, i'd like to stick with the 23 (100w equiv) bc they come in a 4 pack for 10 bucks, 42's are 10 bucks ea.

    i'm on a shitty budget

    thanks knowm,

    love, brooke

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    #37
    Senior Member

    rootone?

    When your on a budget you have to do what you have to do. How long untill you get the rest of the lights up? Hows your outside girl doing since the new changes and how are the cuttings doing?
    SO your a little country girl.
    adieu

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    #38
    Senior Member

    rootone?

    hopefully will have the rest of the lights in place tomorrow. i'm doing a reverse light schedule, light at night, dark during day. this is so temps stay moderated 24/7. we use a wood burner so, its generally cold in my room at night and warm during the day. lights inside flower box kept temps at 73 last night. day temps were 72. (72 dark, 73 light)

    outside plant is doing good, didn't have to use the soap. bugs are gone bud are plentiful. i think i'll call this one sage. tomorrow i'll count the buds. i would gess about 50 heads! (super lst)

    as for the cuttings...
    the first four from the out door plant have rooted and are (yep) vegging now. blueberry clones are hanging in there, 6 out of 8 are really good, 2 from plant 2 are kinda iffy but they aren't dead yet. i'd have to say rootone is deffinately a benificial. still misting like crazy, and it realy helps.

    will flowers stay on the clones the whole veg, and will they flower while in veg? i don't think they will but the 4 from outdoor have a bud at the top. it would be cool if it stayed there!

    n e way, that is the that, and i'll have more for you guys in a little while.

    love, brooke:P

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    #39
    Senior Member

    rootone?

    The flowers will stay there, but the bud may hinder some of the rooting process IMO. It may just be fine, when they are on the top, I just wate untill they are rooted, get a few nodes and then top them.
    Light cycle thing is smart, I do the same thing, also so if the meater man comes to check the meeter it isn't moving a little too fast for his taiste.
    Well keep it up Country.
    Adieu

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    #40
    Senior Member

    rootone?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBear
    The flowers will stay there, but the bud may hinder some of the rooting process IMO. It may just be fine, when they are on the top, I just wate untill they are rooted, get a few nodes and then top them.
    Light cycle thing is smart, I do the same thing, also so if the meater man comes to check the meeter it isn't moving a little too fast for his taiste.
    Well keep it up Country.
    Adieu
    for the meter reader. that is an excellent idea. i hadn't even considered it (the power people will not come in my yard. i have a very big ,very mean german shepherd dog. they use a remote control to get the reading(super high tech)

    as for the buds slowing the rooting... all four of these are now rooted and deff vegging. the other eight, well, i THINK, that a few of these are rooted now. some have changed color a little(darker red, green) but stems are stiff, leaves are not terribly wilted (thanx to misting) and for the most part doing well. looks like i might have 100% success!

    ok, bear, i saw on another thread that you go total dark for 24 hours. my four have had 1 12 hour dark period, lights are on now, going off in an hour and 15 min. should i keep lights off for 24 hours today? should i just stick to 12-12?

    and what should i pot my clones in, how long should i let them veg?

    and to knowm, it might take me 2 weeks to get 16 of the big cfl's (10 bucks ea.) until then would 12 23 w (100w equivalent) and 4 48" flo's work?

    thanx guys, love ya!

    love, brooke

    ps. this is for jerry

    "TOPPING
    Some marijuana growers will take a pair of clippers to the top of their plant just above the last branch formation during the third or fourth week of vegetative growth. The top is removed by shearing it away at the stem. What happens next is that the main stem splits off in two or more directions, creating a V-shape at the top of your plant. The end result after flowering is two or more top colas instead of one. Now, two top colas instead of one does sound appealing and some growers have even managed to force a plant to grow more than six top colas using this method. Unfortunately this topping method of pruning doesn't always lead to better results.

    Depending on the strain and the growing environment, the 'topped' plant may produce two small top colas instead of two big ones. Also, each strain has a threshold for bud production that cannot be improved upon because it is a genetically predetermined factor. On the other hand, some plants when fully grown without topping do not reach their threshold. The strain Blueberry is a good example of this. If you grow Blueberry without topping you won't achieve maximum bud production from that plant, but if you top the Blueberry, you will. Other strains aren't so flexible and the two top colas will simply share the same volume of bud that a single cola would have produced on the same strain."

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