feel The Burn!

[chris420]

Drugs are beautiful tools to open up our minds and give us clarity and enlightenment about our surroundings and much much more beyond that.

[buddymyfriend]

Drugs are beautiful tools to open up our minds and give us clarity and enlightenment about our surroundings and much much more beyond that.

And the words of wisdom still a floweth!

Peace

Buddy

[chris420]

lol, you know its true!

peace and love

[Sig]

Feel? NO..... Can they react to the heat or flame? yes, but that doesn't mean they can feel. They don't have nerve endings.

[buddymyfriend]

lol, you know its true!

peace and love

Will you be my God? Preach that shit to me!

Peace

Buddy:stoned:

[Oneironaut]

But its living just like all the biological processes going on in our body, they work on their own without any conscious command from the host. I do believe plants like any other living being feels and shares some sensations that our current state of evolution has allowed us to perceive, this allows us to describe our conscious perceptions as the physical realm. Plants on the other hand do not have any eyes to see or any other sensorial capacity except tactile perceptions to allow them to locate themselves in a realm of perception. I think they are present in our universal subconscious, and that they are able to communicate with us through trance or meditation.

Communication with plants? What information would they communicate, without any organ to store that information or sensory organs with which to collect information? By what physical mechanism would the communication occur? How would one receive the messages and verify that they are indeed from the plant?

And most importantly, where's the evidence that plants are any more conscious than rocks or electrons or HIV viruses?

[chris420]

Yes, I agree that in strict physical and biological grounds it is impossible for plants to gather up information and communicate a type of inherent or collected data gathered through out its lifespan. However, plants like us evolved beings are a part of this cycle of nature/life. Our awareness or consciousness is what has created all what we perceive and see as reality through subjective sensorial data collection. I think this absence of awareness in plants is comparable to the awareness of a new born baby or an animal whose nature is in no way disturbed and this allows them to have a absolute connection with nature and all forces governing life. Just because we develop the ability to rationalize and think after our birth does not make us any more better than a plant, a tree or an animal. Yet, their connection with the true essence of life is much greater than ours maybe because of their much simpler life forms.

[chris420]

http://www.rtve.es/tve/b/redes/seman...398/index.html

Check that link out, its in Spanish though. It briefly explains a segment of a weekly scientific TV show called Redes from Television Espanola. In this episode they approach a subject much similar to this thread, its about instinctual interactions that plants carry out with their surroundings. This instinct is the basic instinct of all life form, survival.

[Oneironaut]

I am totally tripping balls right now, but anyways...

I read the link and although I agree trees are grand and marvelous creatures, very complicated organisms upon whose existence we survive. Our species came down from the trees, and we and the trees live off each other's waste gases (oxygen and carbon dioxide), so in a deep sense we are connected.

But I'm afraid they are no more conscious than a bacterium, because they lack a real nervous system by which consciousness could conceivably arise.

We animals are uniquely endowed with the special ability to think, and we ought to cherish that, and be proud that we are owners of intricate, complex and beautiful neural systems which allow us to contemplate our own existence.

“We are a way for the Cosmos to know itself.” —Carl Sagan