i got mine from specialty lights...might not have met your requests but im sure people got a kick out of it!! Yo im putting no gun to anyone's head...ea person is free to buy or not buy what the please...this light just so happens to wk very well for me...and on a personal note, all this bickering about these plants not being for real just makes me feel better with my grow because to tell you the truth I was still weary of its results... The fact that everyone keeps thinking im using some other light just tells me that my plants look just as good or even better than they were under a HPS !! Like I said in my past posts...I dont have to prove anything to anyone...you believe what you wanna believe!!