question for Zandor

[Zandor]

Right on, if it gets to high you may want to look into a sulfer burner just in case.

[deftdrummer]

what is the deal behind those? I have never heard about those or looked into the price range. How does burning sulfur help out?

[Zandor]

It’s the best way to kill mold. When you grow on the edge to get the max out of the plant you need to be prepared.

They cost about 125 bucks and burn very clean sulfur like a vaporizer does. You only turn them on when you need them and they only run for a few day's when it's empty the mold is gone. The plant loves sulfur too so it's good for the plant anyway.

[connisuer]

Zandor: ok i'm trien to understand you but my thought process is completely opposite of yours, so please debate with me and maybe we both can learn something, thats the whole purpose of this right? first you say the higher humidity the thicker and more robust foliage, i interpet that as more water retention, means a slower metabolism due to restricted nutrient uptake, so in other words yes, just like humans when our metabolism slows down we get "fat", nobody wants fat, lets compare the human body and the marijuana plant, so to say, you go on a diet, eat every 2 hours a day, you start working out 3-4 times a week, your going to build physical resistance due to straining your body and giving it what it needs, now you are no longer straining your body, working out has just become routine, right? lets relate that theory to our plants, we have our plants in the perfect enviroment to grow in but our humidity is a tad high, from the naked eye it appears we have very healthy lush plants, they seem to be working fine, photosynthesis seems to be taking place, but what if it could be better? i think the problem is we look at our plants and if they look healthy all is well, hey you might look healthy 50 pounds overweight too but that doesnt mean your performing at your maximum potential, back to the plants, lets say we drop that there humidty down 20%, now our "fat" out of shape plants have to work a little harder to keep up with the moisture inside they have grown acustomed to, true at first we are straining our plants to work harder to rehydrate themselves but do you think in the process of stressing them out there now going to grow thicker stalks to make up for the water loss? the more our plants work, the more there going to grow, the higher there metabolism is going to get to keep up with the dietary needs, after awhile were really not stressing our plants out are we, we've just worked them into shape, now with this higher metabolism and a stronger nutrient uptake were going to get more growth instead of water weight, in terms more resin production instead of water heavy buds, now if our plants our working much harder now, like you said they are transpiring more, and the more they transpire the more there internal heat drops, the lower there metabolism gets, right? but if photosynthesis is happening in the leaves, and we have our leaves basking in the rays of big HID lamps there shouldnt be a dramatic loss in temperature

[mistyganjatree]

i think to put it in laymens terms,
if you grow with plenty of humiditty the amount of moisture {that will be converted into sugars for food } is higher in the plant as it goes into flower, wich gives it an advantage of not having to feed all from the root, it has a "fat 'reserve to fuel itself from!
so it gets big and lush,
by the way, a biological being like the human has NO similarities to plants!
what so ever, they have no blood, lungs, heart or inernal nevous system! lol


laymans terms are cool!

welcome to the world of endless possibilities,,,,hydroponics

[connisuer]

I'm so sorry if you have completely misunderstood my cross analogy of plants and humans to show how we all react to stress and adapt to enviromental changes, thank you so very much for restating zandors theory in laymens terms, only problem is I don't happen to be a "laymen" and I was looking for a more in depth explination of how his theory can prove mine wrong, its kind of like politics, if you don't understand you can't debate

[Zandor]

First sorry but it’s hard to compare this plant with people in terms of growth. There is no real common point to begin a discussion and have it make any since.
First plants store energy they do not turn it to fat. Plants don’t need to workout and thin is not in with plants. The larger the plant get the more energy they can store but in turn the more energy they need just to maintain that same level of growth.

Large fan leafs are used to help the plant control the internal temperature of the liquid in the plant thus the temperature of the whole plant. Plants work in more of a reverse manor, when they transpire they are working to hard and spending energy doing other things rather then just growing more foliage and flowers... Your compartment of this to people is only confusing the facts. You said most of the theory properly but you keep trying to compare it to people fat from what I can tell.

By having high humidity in the vegetation cycle the plant is allowed to spend its energy into producing foliage above the root line and it does not need to build mass roots (in hydro) the drippers deliver all the required nutrients to the plant when it needs it.

I assume you have checked out my Cycle of Life growing technique already.

[Chlorella99]

zandor, in question to the fogger you refer to ; is a halloween style fogger going to work? Also can your post a link to your cycle of life and any other articles that you feel would help a struggling grower out. sorry to invade your thread deft.

[Zandor]

http://www.hydrofogger.com/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=35

That is one of the type of foggers I am talking about.

[mistyganjatree]

nice fogger zandor, i have smaller domestic models and a floating ultrasonic mister, works good but the refill would be a thing of the past with that one!! that looks the buisness, expensive though,
hey is that humidifier gonna make your plants fat and breathless!! ha ha !!! ha ha ha