Atheism

[afghooey]

There is debate as to the rate at which speciation events occur over geologic time. While some evolutionary biologists claim that speciation events have remained relatively constant over time, some palaeontologists such as Niles Eldredge and Stephen Jay Gould have argued that species usually remain unchanged over long stretches of time, and that speciation occurs only over relatively brief intervals, a view known as punctuated equilibrium.

this is from your link they have ideas and no proof of anything. they can't even find these so called missing links of the result from Puncatuated equilibrium.

Science can not explain evolution but there trying Real hard.... just as much a strech to belive the bible is right, your faith in man gives you reason to choose evolution, it has never been proven. My faith in God Has a book called the bible backing all that science has found True and in sink with it.

I find it a bit hypocritical that you disregard all evidence of evolution, offer no concrete evidence in creation's favor, and then demand proof of evolution. A huge scientific consensus agree with the tested theories of evolution, and you claim that the bible backs all science and is in sync with it? Look at the huge mountain of evidence, man. Here's a good place to start:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/

[Krogith]

This in-depth, multi-part course takes you through evolutionary theory and mechanisms, from definitions to details, natural selection to genetic drift, mutations to punctuated equilibrium


DID YOU CATCH THAT? Theory? They have no proof all of it is Ideas. Lots of people have idea that are wrong. Theres no Proof.

My proof is the acceracy of the bible.

[afghooey]

First of all, you have no "proof" of the accuracy of the Bible.

Secondly, you seem to have a misunderstanding of the word 'proof' in the first place.

Author: Dr. R. Topper
Text: First let me say that I am not a biologist, but a chemist. So I
do not have a very detailed answer to your question. I first want to say that
scientists have a very special meaning for the word "proof." In fact, it is
so difficult to "prove" a scientific theory that I can honestly say that there
are NO pieces of scientific knowledge that have actually been "proved."
Scientists come up with a theory, and then they test it in as many ways as
they can, looking for evidence or information which will either prove the
theory to be impossible, or maybe verify some of the theory's predictions, or
change the theory a little. Most theories start out because someone has done
a lot of experiments, or a lot of studies, to look at something, and then they
make a general guess as to how that thing works. This is called a "theory" in
science. However, if we guess how things are based on what someone else tells
us, or based on what we read, that is not a "theory" to a scientist but a "guess." After all of that, I guess you would like to hear some EVIDENCE
supporting evolution. One piece of evidence is based on our DNA molecules.
Every single cell in our bodies contains DNA, a special molecule which
literally makes us what we are. Our DNA is almost EXACTLY the same as gorilla
DNA, and is even closer to DNA obtained from fossils of ancient ancestors of
human beings. There is much more evidence, but I will let the biologists take
over.

(Source: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/newton...ogy/bio039.htm)

[Krogith]

No proof about the bible? There are ocean organizums found at the tops of mountains and there are fossle records of animals from differnt ecosystems in the same area unexplained... O wait thats right noah and the flood...

Science has found that animals just seem to appear and not change for millions of years, and then there gone. They can;t link up evolution as hard as they try.

[Ignatius]

Krogith I find your suggestion (that if not for a wrathful God then man would have no reason to do good instead of bad) to be quite risible. Is that what you're basing your faith on? Fear?

Here's just one "fact" from The Bible which I find hard to swallow.

Methuselah lived to be 969 years old.

Do you believe that to be true? Or do you think the age is meant to be symbolic?

[Krogith]

the people back towards adam and eves day were closer to prefection, and also consider this..

If the earth was a paradice would not our oxygen suply be alot higher than today? Oxygen is anti bacteria and with such a oxygen rich envryoment I do not think it impossable to live a life of 900. Science today has yet to explain why we grow old and what causes our cells to start sucideing.

In all reality our bodys should run and renew them selfs. After noah's day most vegation would of been wiped out cept a few higher places. So the earth would be working differntly, because befor noah's day it didn't rain, a mist went up from the earth to water all, Thats why no one belived him it was going to rain and flood everything.

With all the water added to our earth the atmisphear must of dramaticly changed.

(sorry for spelling, Hope you get my points)

[Stedric]

Krogith I find your suggestion (that if not for a wrathful God then man would have no reason to do good instead of bad) to be quite risible. Is that what you're basing your faith on? Fear?

Here's just one "fact" from The Bible which I find hard to swallow.

Methuselah lived to be 969 years old.

Do you believe that to be true? Or do you think the age is meant to be symbolic?

The Bible was not mean to be taken literally. Fundamentalism is a relatively recent movement. The Bible was meant to be a collection of stories which have relevance to modern life, and I think some of them (i.e. the Good Samaritan) do.

[Ignatius]

I agree with you Stedric.

Kothrig thinks that Methuselah could easily have lived for 900+ years because the oxygen was better.

I needed to get a handle on his grasp of science, and now I know.

[Mud Dauber]

The Bible was not mean to be taken literally. Fundamentalism is a relatively recent movement. The Bible was meant to be a collection of stories which have relevance to modern life, and I think some of them (i.e. the Good Samaritan) do.

Surely you're not suggesting that the entire New Testament should not be taken literally and is just a collection of sotires ?


Ignatius, are you ignoring me ?

[Krogith]

The people who wrote the bible didn't even live as long as we do today.