Atheism

[Krogith]

Your faith proves that atoms came outta no where and your live is just chance, with no meaning.

My faith is god has always been and has created all that we see. What I find to be funny is my proof is the accerate bible prophecys that have come true. The Fact that 3500 years ago a man had insight into things that were not found true untell recently, and Said it was inspired of God.

The 1st 1/2 of the Bible ( the hebrew scriptures) all Came true and told about Jesus's life long befor he arived. The 2ed 1/2 of the Bible ( the Greek Scriptures) Is about Jesus life and what he was going to do in the future when he returned. And about how these lasts days would be. All these things are comming true. I'm not baseing a belief on just in case, i'm baseing it on what I see compaired to what was fortold. Do Not be Asleep Keep on the Watch.

Krogith Reviewed by Krogith on 10-06-2006. Atheism What non-mutual original doctrines that have contributed to the well being of anything have come directly from atheism, and atheism only. Now remember, this can't include buddhism, because if you know your history buddha was from a royal line. I know damn well his family had religion just like every other culture. So, from a sociological point of view; his ethics were influenced by the ethics of others who were ultimatley influenced by religion at one point or another. Now, I know the Rating: 5

[Ignatius]

Just because something happens by chance it does not follow that it has no meaning. My life is full of meaning, and I'm an atheist. Your rather arrogant assumption that life without faith is meaningless is exactly the kind of thing that annoys me about religion. You assume so much, none of it true.

[Krogith]

if life came from soup and lighting and every liveing thing is just there by chance and location. Then what meaning is there? What would it do for you to be a good person verses a bad person? nothing has judgement over you so there fore what is the differnce of good and bad? doesn't it all become the same path? I'm asking you, because im courious . Not an attack.

[Polymirize]

silly krogith... the meaning would have to be life itself, of course.

[mrdevious]

Krogith, seriously... how many times does it need to be reiterated? Evolution or any non-god theory is NOT DEPENDANT ON "JUST CHANCE". You're repeatedly distorting the possition of the opposition.

[afghooey]

I don't know how people assume that evolution is dependent on random chance, when in fact it's just the opposite. Look at the stones at the bottom of a stream. Do you think god made them round and smooth and put them there? If not, then does it follow that the round, smooth stones got there randomly? It's the same with evolution. There's a reason that we're here. We're not an accident, but nor does that mean that we were necessarily created by some outside force.

And I believe life can have meaning in and of itself, without fear of being Judged by a wrathful god.

This judgement has always perplexed me, since if god is omnipresent and omnipotent and our creator, he must know each of us inside and out, our pasts, our present and our futures. If he created some of our characters as such that we would so doubt and question and reject belief in a deistic god, why would he then judge us? For if he is our creator and breathed life into us, and shaped our anatomy and our incredibly complex minds with all the nuances of personality and psychology, aren't we merely an extention of god ourselves? Why would a perfect god need to judge itself?

I don't claim to be perfect myself, but I do believe strongly in exercising tolerance and respect for other people. One doesn't need to believe in god to believe that they should treat people the way they want to be treated.

[Krogith]

yes your own life would be your soul purpose. Good or bad what ever makes you happy. there fore in this world what ever path you choose to live your life is fine. Eat and drink and be marry for tommaro we die. Self indulged and makeing your self god.


Knowing good and bad you will choose and thus sin's wage is Death. How sad you choose as adam and eve. Tossed about as sheep without a shepherd, lost you have become.

[Krogith]

Explain how the sun just happend to be the right distance to suport life.

Explain to me how the earth is set to clean it self with the water cycles and Plant life That came outta no where. And all the laws of physics that make it all work in sink.

All these things and millions more just happend to form and be here and come to be here by it self. But thats not Chance? Do you understand how increadibly small chance all this is? Even a simple cell, science can;t explain how these things got set in motion or how it just came about. The CHANCE for all this to happen and all be around for you to Enjoy. Do you realise that just simple ENJOYMENT isn't explain in evolution? How do we need that to survive?

The fossele records can;t show you evolution, they prove things came about and did NOT change dramaticly and just dissapeared. Natural seliction has NEVER created a NEW form of life. A Dog will allways be a Dog, it might look a little differnt from others but the DNA code has not changed.

[Oneironaut]

Explain how the sun just happend to be the right distance to suport life.

Uhh, there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more stars and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more planets in the universe than you could possibly conceive. And I can assure you, there are a LOT of planets orbiting Sun-like stars at distances of around 90 million miles.

Explain to me how the earth is set to clean it self with the water cycles and Plant life That came outta no where.

Don't just say "explain to me". That's a lot of geology and meteorology we're talking about there. Go read what the geologists and the meteorologists say about it. Refusing to educate yourself about it is no excuse for not believing it.

I can assure you, what they've found so far is all pretty standard chemistry.

All these things and millions more just happend to form and be here and come to be here by it self. But thats not Chance? Do you understand how increadibly small chance all this is? Even a simple cell, science can;t explain how these things got set in motion or how it just came about. The CHANCE for all this to happen and all be around for you to Enjoy. Do you realise that just simple ENJOYMENT isn't explain in evolution? How do we need that to survive?

And WHAT, pray tell, are the chances that one day POOF out of nowhere: A SUPERINTELLIGENCE CAPABLE OF DESIGNING ALL THAT! I'd say the chances are so slim that it's impossible. What sort of thing could cause that to happen?

And you seem to think that Darwinian processes are the result of chance. They aren't. Natural selection is the complete opposite of chance. Sure, each individual mutation is a chance occurrence, but only the beneficial mutations survive in the population, those mutations which improve the organism's ability to survive in its environment and propagate its genes. The mutations that survive are not random at all. Once you get things that are reasonably good at copying themselves, this non-random process is unavoidable.

Do you have any idea how simple enjoymest is to explain via evolution? Enjoyment is a survival mechanism; our bodies have this one emotion that we're driven to pursue, usually when we do things that help our genes propagate. Things like eating food and having sex bring us enjoyment, so we are driven to pursue them.

The fossele records can;t show you evolution, they prove things came about and did NOT change dramaticly and just dissapeared. Natural seliction has NEVER created a NEW form of life. A Dog will allways be a Dog, it might look a little differnt from others but the DNA code has not changed.

This paragraph makes no sense. Try learning a thing or two about speciation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation

[Krogith]

There is debate as to the rate at which speciation events occur over geologic time. While some evolutionary biologists claim that speciation events have remained relatively constant over time, some palaeontologists such as Niles Eldredge and Stephen Jay Gould have argued that species usually remain unchanged over long stretches of time, and that speciation occurs only over relatively brief intervals, a view known as punctuated equilibrium.

this is from your link they have ideas and no proof of anything. they can't even find these so called missing links of the result from Puncatuated equilibrium.

Science can not explain evolution but there trying Real hard.... just as much a strech to belive the bible is right, your faith in man gives you reason to choose evolution, it has never been proven. My faith in God Has a book called the bible backing all that science has found True and in sink with it.