Argument supporting god...?

[Krogith]

In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time. Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian ("De pud." c. xxi). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of Origen ("In Ps. xvii", 15). The first creed in which it appears is that of Origen's pupil, Gregory Thaumaturgus. In his Ekthesis tes pisteos composed between 260 and 270, he writes:

This is from The New Catholic encyclopedia

Sounds to me like it's made up after christ. Don't you think if it was true earlyer bible writers would have it in the text? I could bring up more if you want?

It's just a simple missconception Passed to the masses who don;t want to look stuff up for them self. It has no bible baises and is missleading.

Also please 2 corinthians 1:3

[Mud Dauber]

I've always seen religious people as beneath me. They're either sheep, lazy, or cowards. It's for simpler people.

My, aren't you an arrogant ass ?

Educated, as well. :thumbsup:

[Mud Dauber]

LOL Religion! Its just used to help people deal with things they cant understand. Like death..

But the people who believe god exists are going to do so no matter what you say because thats how they were brought up. Ignorance is bliss.

I know numerous people who had never set foot in a church until they were grown.

[Inferius]

My, aren't you an arrogant ass ?

Educated, as well. :thumbsup:

I'm just being honest.
And stoned.

[Inferius]

sorry if I sound like an idiot.
i used to get worried that I did,
but it would take away from the high,
So I guess i've become too comfortable with my stoned stupidity.

[Mud Dauber]

sorry if I sound like an idiot.
i used to get worried that I did,
but it would take away from the high,
So I guess i've become too comfortable with my stoned stupidity.

ha ha ha ! At least you're honest about it

[Pass That Shit]

Krogith,

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me"

"TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you."

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."

Since you are denying Jesus, then you don't know the Father. You are just like those who put Jesus to the cross. He claimed to be "equal" with God, so they killed him. You are doing the same thing as they did unto him.

In the old testament:

"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

In the new testament:

"Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

[MastaChronic]

I AM THAT IS! worship me, and i will give you cheese and crackers....am i a god yet? lol, sorry this post isnt supposed to exist

[Krogith]

Krogith,

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me" ( Drawing close to Jesus is getting to Know his Father)

"TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you." ( Talking to pagan god's, has nothing to do with Jesus being God)

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." ( If you deny Jesus and him dieing for your sins then how can you except his father in heaven that sent him forth)

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." ( If you do not belive that Jesus is Gods Son and the 1st of all creation and he died for your sins, Than you can not ever Draw close to Jehovah God)

Since you are denying Jesus, then you don't know the Father. You are just like those who put Jesus to the cross. He claimed to be "equal" with God, so they killed him. You are doing the same thing as they did unto him.

In the old testament:

"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." ( Jesus Was Sent By his Father the one who was TALKING to Moses)

In the new testament:

"Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

(( Jesus was 1st of all creation and was and is in Heaven with the angles, That where created by him through the WORD OF HIS FATHER JEHOVAH) of couse he was around befor abraham)


Mark 13:32 "But of that day or that hour no one knows, Not even the angles in heaven, nor the Son, But only the Father"

am I helping you understand? I have never forsaken Jesus and the role he plays, only by means of him can we even talk to his father, let alone recive what is ment for us after armageddon. But putting Jesus as God is Wrong.

Jesus is still our lord. He rules us under Jehovah God's laws

[Ignatius]

Mud Dauber, I have empirical evidence that poker can support a family because I do it myself. Is that good enough for you? I'm not suggesting that anyone can do it, it requires a certain patience, and some skill and the ability to count. Not everyone has these skills.

Maybe I used the wrong words to explain my position re God. What I am saying is that there is no empirical evidence to support his existence. It is a matter of faith, not science. You agree with this, surely?

I can't see God all around me, I see phenomena as yet unexplained. I am sure that, in time, science will offer explanations. I am not a scientist, but I trust in science. Science invented the internal combustion engine and the jet engine, and I can now fly at the speed of sound if I so wish. God hasn't shown me a way to do that without science.

There are many explanations for your friend's experience. Perhaps it is because so many stories do the rounds about out of body experiences that they sink into our subconscious and come out at times like this. You know, if you are knocked out you can have all kinds of out of body experiences. I've been knocked out (I mean sparko) on two occasions and I experienced a similar thing (though not quite so vivid) myself. Certain opiates can provide the same thing. I don't know how familiar you are with opiates but I can assure you it is a common occurence. The same with LSD. That will make anyone see God, but I prefer an alternative explanation. I don't have all the answers, or even any of them really, but that does not mean I put it down to God by default.

You have faith, I do not. If God is a force for good, let him show it. To use a poker term, I want to see his hand... I call his Bible and raise hiim the weight of scientific opinion in the wake of the enlightenment.

All in...

(waits to see God's hand)