So by this logic it had to have come from god? Why should this system end once you reach the conclusion of god. Oh yes because he has always existed? How is that anymore logical or any different really than one atom having alway's existed. My point is this, the argument shows nothing. It doesn't explain how their must be a god nor does it explain there isn't one. It's simply flawed logic that you suddenly change at the end to "explain" what you believe."

Again why does this questioning suddenly end when you reach the point of "well god must have created it." If it is possible God has alway's been, isn't it also possible the universe has always been, in one form or another? I understand people want answers, but I don't think our minds are advanced enough to truely grasp this universe and it's laws, much less why they are the way they are. God is simply a convienent answer to these questions.

But again, I have no problem with the belief in God assuming the faith is based on something personal. That is true faith. Being told there is a god all ones life and assuming it is ture isn't faith. It's ignorance. In order to have faith you have to give a personal reason for it.

If you tell me you believe in god because of this that happened to you than great... maybe you are right. I don't know, known of us do. I simply can't stand the people who argue so strongly that there is a god without ever truely thinking about it.

In Catholic school they taught us it was a sin to ever question god, yet you can never truely believe in him unless you question him at one point.

Now I'm not saying this is the kind of person you are, but that is the kind of person that pisses me off.

I don't try and disprove god, I simply want to encourage people to question his existence and come up with a personal answer to the question. Quit simply accepting it as fact because it has been shoved down your throat and been told for so long it is sacralige to question the truth about what your tought. In my opinion organized religion is a form of brainwashing. I can say this because I have lived it.
JaggedEdge Reviewed by JaggedEdge on . Argument supporting god...? I'm rather annoyed with the logic of Catholics. I attended a catholic school from 5th - 12th grade and I remember in religion class when I would debate with my teachers about their teachings (in 10-12 grade) an argument they used. I don't remember the question asked but the teacher replied with this logic. Teacher - Look at that flower, where did it come from? Me - Umm a seed. T - Where did that seed come from? Me - the dirt. Rating: 5