Argument supporting god...?

[Ignatius]

Science and God do go hand in hand. When we find we don't have the missing piece of the scientific puzzle we put God in it's place. As we become more adept at finding the scientific reasoning behind the missing pieces we'll rely on God less and less for the explanation.

[Krogith]

Some how because the sun rises today baised on physic laws, this proves God didn't set it up and make it work that perfect? you realise if a PIN head pice of the sun's core was here on earth you could not be within 90 miles of that tiny pice? it is at just the EXACT right distance from the earth to warm our day.

All this is somehow random? Just because we know what laws hold things here or does that over there proves theres no god? Proves to me his perfect design. and the fact that the bible was accerate with all we know and with jesus's life it was fortold, for us today to know.

I think Jesus most likely did exist too, and probably as a very wise man. But, there's a lot of evidence that his divinity was added on when the bible was collected and standardized some-odd 600 years after Jesus, largely for the purpose of making christianity more appealing to pagaens.

it's nice to at least have a few like-minded people around here, good to have you here Jaggededge (and fireybudburner)

I don't understand how he exsisted (jesus) and did all that he did (raise the dead, cure the lame). his life was layed out in the hebrew scriptures and all the prophceys came true. and the fact that the bible accerately discribed his life and what he would do. Jesus proved to be the son of god that was fortold to do exactly what he did.

the pope and the crusadeds and all these false doctrens that some how prove to you that he was just a man. Do you not remember Satan takeing Jesus to a high mountain and showing Jesus the kingdoms of the day, He said they were his and he would give them to Jesus right now for a act of worship. Jesus did not Deny that the goverments of this world are controled by Satan. Satan missleads Mankind and has given plunty of reason to reject God. Do not be misslead.

Jesus was the son of god here to make up for Adam's sin (eye for an eye rule) (perfect man sin-ning and perfect man dieing for all mankind). All these things were Fortold and All these things were right.

Thing is we have found script that date back to jesus time, and the bible is right. All the stuff christanty and false religion has tought is obiously wrong. and there obiously not following god's laws and what jesus tought. Don't let others ignorance and miss pratice stumble you. Do real reaserch and seek god out with a sound mind. turn away from the false teachers.

[TheToonToker]

well christianity is based on the Egyptians Sun Worshipping, like most ppl think Jesus was born on the 25th Of December - but he wasnt he was born in March (according to the bible) they used this date because it was already a religious day and they didnt want to mess ups ppl calenders basicly, so they just converted the old religous Egyiptian holiday and "re-packaged" it for christianity

[Ignatius]

That thing about being the right distance from the Sun.

Don't you think we might have evolved as the planet cooled and began to settle in the orbit we are in now. We weren't just here one day out of nowhere (or even six days out of nowhere) I think we gradually evolved to become what we are now. There are many mysteries still to be solved and science solves them one at a time. Those that aren't solved I am content to call "undiscovered truths"

I'm not ready to bet my chips on God being the answer just yet.

[Krogith]

how did all the millions of differnt things all evolve from the same stuff? Everything we see not only the life but the plant life. all these billions of differnt kinds of life all came about and the earth works in a way to suport it all, but some how it just happend about? Your beliveing an impossablity , think about everything you see and how complex it all works together and how we all need the other life to help us live our self. How would a rat elvolve to eat something if were all some how elvolveing at the same time? he would have nothing to eat.

bacteria eats and lives off things ,what would it consume to elvolve into more? how would anything exsist if the other life it uses to suport it self wasn't there or in a differnt stage. nothing could come about from this process and work in the way it does today ( and for the last 8000 years)

why is there no new intelligent life what caused us to come this far but Nothing else. remember your saying everything came from the same soup. where are the talking trees? This is how I can belive a creator that made everything work so well. WE all live useing the other life around us as suport and with out it all would be dead. and if god didn't make it JUST SO nothing would work.

[FireyBudBurner]

how did all the millions of differnt things all evolve from the same stuff? Everything we see not only the life but the plant life. all these billions of differnt kinds of life all came about and the earth works in a way to suport it all, but some how it just happend about? Your beliveing an impossablity , think about everything you see and how complex it all works together and how we all need the other life to help us live our self. How would a rat elvolve to eat something if were all some how elvolveing at the same time? he would have nothing to eat.

bacteria eats and lives off things ,what would it consume to elvolve into more? how would anything exsist if the other life it uses to suport it self wasn't there or in a differnt stage. nothing could come about from this process and work in the way it does today ( and for the last 8000 years)

why is there no new intelligent life what caused us to come this far but Nothing else. remember your saying everything came from the same soup. where are the talking trees? This is how I can belive a creator that made everything work so well. WE all live useing the other life around us as suport and with out it all would be dead. and if god didn't make it JUST SO nothing would work.

Genetic mutations and changes in breeds of under water bacteria over time is how it happened. If the mutations benefited the species then it would render the non-mutated (or unevolved version of the species usless and it would not be able to compete for the same food with its superior). For instance in modern history the neaderthal man found himself outsmarted by the homospaien mutation of the species the neaderthal was bigger and stronger, but it couldn't make tools and build shelters the way its mutated homospapien brothers could. Therefore the old evolution died off due to competion and the homospaiens ruled. Same principle applied to the bactericia who delveloped a tail and could swin fast than the previous species.
Certain attributes also lend to great success in certain climates, and regions the members of the species with these favorable attributes breed and thrive more effieciently than there brothers who may be underdeveloped in that area. The underdeveloped species die off and give way to the favorable species and soon enough the whole population has that favorable attribute. Pretty much basic biology, survival of the fittest and natural selection.
You may find it hard to believe that a bacteria turned into a human but it many many jumps before that one. Bacteria turns into a small fish, small fish turns into a bigger fish bigger fish grows legs and turns into prehistoric frog, the frog then turns into a primative lizard, the lizard due to climate change needs to develop hairs and turns into a rodent, rodent turns into a small monkey, small monkey turns into a primate and you should know the rest from there. Thats a very simplified version and Im sure there are many changes in between each but thats just a run down of how it happens.

Prehistoric bacterium photosyntheisized there food using the suns rays and H2O by the way.

[Pass That Shit]

"I'm rather annoyed with the logic of Catholics"
LOL, you're not alone.


The unbeliever will argue that what science can't figure out, a christian screams it was God who did it, to fit the puzzle.
I say, God spoke and science has yet to disprove a single word.

You guys say man wrote the bible, but yet the authors don't take credit for the writings. They ALL know and understand that it was written with the Spirit of God and none of the writers take any glory for their own writings. But yet, you guys scream that man wrote it. Obviously the authors disagree with you. Even though you want to give them the glory for the writings, they don't accept it.

This is the bottom line. You want proof? Try connecting the black and red leads of a volt meter to me and see if you can detect the Spirit of God inside me? How many volts? Science can't detect what's inside me, but I have the substance and evidence to prove that it's there. Oh yeah, but you don't want to believe me. :thumbsup:

[Ignatius]

Science has disproven quite a few of the words of God. Assuming the Bible is the word of God then we must accept that the world is only ..what is it..eight thousand, six thousand years old? Something like that. Are you a creationist perchance?

[Krogith]

nothing in the bible, has been proven WRONG thats a false statement.

[TheToonToker]

nothink has been proven right aswell