moorephened: i roll with my roach on, that some people dont find easy but that way the roach gives me a go to roll the joint nice and straight. Its easy to learn how to roll perfect joints. You just have to make ur hands get used to he paper. So everybody should keep rolling and rolling.

I also have some good tips. Hands work better if they r worm. So rub em together, gentry toutch ur tongue to ur pointers and rub em with ur thumbs, that helps very much to keep control of the paper and it wont slip between ur fingers. After u roll the joint theres no point stickin a pen inside and push. Whan u need to do first is tap the tip of the roach to the desk. That way the weed will be packed tightly from the bottom leaving no empty spaces in the joint. NOW u can stick a pen and gently push the weed from the top (that i never do myself though).

For the roach now: Dont simply "roll" the roach. When u light the joint ur roach will expand from the heat and take the shape of a tube and that probably will make some of the weed come to ur mouth. The best way to make a roach is fold it some times to make it look something like an accordeon :P and then "roll" it.

like this:
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Hope i helped ya with these tips...