Legislation tolls the bell for the day America died, birth of the dictatorship

[WalkaWalka]

I guess I looked at the Revolutionary War as never realy being over as we were always going to be fighting in one way or another for our liberty. Well with recent turns of events I'm going to call it. Its over we lost we're fucked we fucked ourselves this isn't America. This is the twilight facist zone did I mention we were fucked.

[Weednuts]

Its over we lost we're fucked we fucked ourselves this isn't America. This is the twilight facist zone did I mention we were fucked.

Not yet my friend. I certainly understand your cynical view. But look at history throughout the world. Whenever a corrupt power gets too powerful things start to go wrong and it eventually collapses under it's own weight. Just watch how it plays out. Propaganda can only go so far in this age of instant communications. We are truly in the middle of a renaissance, a real turning point. Global communications, imo, will push corrupt elements like the Bush regime out.....in time.

[Krogith]

theres more at play than USA your being close minded.

[Myth1184]

long live the usa, death to terrorist, they arent protected by US laws.

[Tom Swierzbinski]

long live the usa, death to terrorist, they arent protected by US laws.

Neither are Americans any more... Bush has basically stated that if you dont agree with HIS views and HIS ideas, then youre a terrorist. The Fourth Amendment has just been thrown out of the window.

[WalkaWalka]

I got over my earlier depression with a trip to the gun store. I don't know what its going to come too but if it goes that far I will go guerilla.

[Nylo]

Dude, paraphrase. Paraphrase. Paraphrase. You're like C-SPAN, you could have the most important information in the world but people are going to pass right over you until you figure out how to get to the meat and potatos. Call it reader-laziness, but it's also a golden-rule in ethical writing.

Anyways, I think you're taking the allegiance text way out of context. If you're found aiding or harboring a known terrorist you're in breach of your allegiance to the United States. I mean honestly, this document isn't taking away your habeus corpus.

In the united states you can be claimed guilty for any law under the sun, but you have to be proven guilty first. Nowhere in this document do I see anything (like in the first draft of the Patriot Act) that would impede on the judicial process of getting to the truth of the case.

I think this issue is important, but c'mon, 4th amendment out the window? Even if you burn a flag that's no in violation of your allegiance to the United States. I smell fearmongering.