Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet
You can always come up with an extreme hypothetical situation to justify anything. For instance: What if a nuclear device was planted in a baby, and you had to chop the baby in half to get the nuclear bomb out?! Once you concede 'baby chopping' is justified in extreme cases....etc.
Yeah, if you had Bin Laden by the short n' curlys and the only way to save a million people was to skin him alive, you would probably have to do it. But it still wouldn't be moral or right, and it wouldn't be a precedent for making torture 'business as usual'.
That's what terrorism is all about. A few madmen aren't killing people just for the sake of eliminating those people. They are striking at our weakness and fear. --to terrorize us into destroying ourselves. And it's working if we abandon everything that makes us a class act.
It's more important than ever to conduct ourselves with absolute dignity. When someone from another country is dealing with America, they need to know they're dealing with a just and responsible code of values,....not nazi ghouls.
The terrorists that killed 3000 innocent people on 9/11 are not people "from another country" that care about justice and a "responsible code of values" - they are madmen that must be treated as rabid animals. Since they are not afraid of death, then other methods of convincing them to cease their acts must be employed when necessary. Killing the families of jihadists is a good idea to discourage their suicide missions. Fuck 'em. I act like a fucking Nazi when I have to. Street problems with lunatics are solved very quickly, usually without violence, when the troublemakers know that you're crazier than they are. Morality is NOT constant, or without change. It IS immoral to allow people to get away with murder and terrorism - and not immoral to use any means necessary against the guilty to stop it.