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	10-03-2006, 02:35 AM #11 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesyou don't need a torch lighter, or a waterpipe. i smoked my bubbler without water and it worked perfectly. just roast the bowl with a bic (leave the flame on the salvia) 
 
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	10-03-2006, 07:55 PM #12 Member Member
 Salvia troublesI hate Salvia. The same thing happened to me. I tried every standardized extract up to 20X and nothing happened, for the longest time. But there are a few reasons this may be happening to you. Because in time, I got it to work right. But it only then worked thereon out, with 20X standardized extract, and higher. 
 
 First of all, smoking too much will only make you feel light headed. It'll make you feel really cold for a second. Then you'll get light headed. This will last about 3-5 minutes. So never smoke too much. Usually a pinch (if even that) will do.
 
 Secondly, the setting must be perfect. If you're in a room with the lights on, people around, and a bunch of noise...little to nothing will happen. And if something does happen, get ready to be scared out of your mind.
 
 Lastly, Salvia just doesn't work as an entheogen (hallucinogenic) for some people. For some, it only gives a mild "stoned" feeling. And for others, visuals take place.
 
 My advice is to rather 1, give up Salvia. Or 2, stop LOADING your bong (if you're using one), with the stuff. As that will not make it work! If there had to be a 3, i'd say START OUT with the HIGHEST degree of standardized extract you can get you hands on. Don't start at normal salvia leaves. Don't start at 5X extract. And don't start at 10X extract.
 
 Dive directly into 20X and 40X standardized extracts.
 
 ...Just don't get ripped off. 1 Gram is usually 50 dollars. And 50 dollars can get you like 4 grams of weed. Which infact, DOES work and DOES get you high. Plus, it lasts longer.
 
 Personally, I don't think 5 minute highs are worth it. My personal advice is to just stick with weed. Or if you really want to try an entheogen that actually works, do LSD, or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. They work.
 
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	10-03-2006, 10:06 PM #13 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesDon't smoke it out of a joint. Originally Posted by Purple Banana Originally Posted by Purple Banana
 
 Keep trying, yes the reverse tolerance effect is true.
 
 I bought a gram f 10X. I smoked 5 bowls of it with hardly any effects at all. Then I thought to myself "Fuck it, I'll just do one more..."
 
 I smoked that one last bowl, and BAM.
 
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	10-03-2006, 10:29 PM #14 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesi remember the first time i did it was 10x if it was weed itd b like 1/3 of a bowl i smoked that shit all in one hit, held for like 15 secs i knew a trip was on its way. as im walking in the house all the furniture on the side of me started coming together like it was supposed to be there, so i kinda think about that but never look at it directly and jus keep walkin ahead up my stairs at the top i was at the peak (this is so hard puting into words) but i was fucked the one thing i rememberd was to hide my pipe so i put it under my refrigerator then i was hearing what i thought were real voices up the stairs so i yelled who the fuck is up there?? turns out i left the tv on. 
 
 the point of this story is i dont know why it doesnt work for you you mus b doin it wrong
 
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	10-04-2006, 05:43 PM #15 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesmy mate stitched his stepdad up with it he did a big fuckoff bong thou it was weed!! he started dribbling fell to the floor and started throwing his arms about,my mate is a chef his mate was a chef they were trying to pick him up or sort him out,when he come round he said he thou they were men in white coats and he was in a mental home(they had chef whites on)he thou that was how his life was for a minute or two,,he was not happy!! I smoked a few big tokes of 40x it was not nice, felt like i was being pulled to the floor and a horrible taste!!trippy but not nice in my opinion. 
 
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	10-04-2006, 05:53 PM #16 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 Salvia troublesOh yes! Bless reverse tolerance! I FINALLY got something out of my 15x in my bong. No visuals, but I had the whole distorted thought thing going on... I thought those brown mushroom things from Mario were Jewish, so they couldn't cross a bridge to get food, because they had to fast for Yom Kippur. 
 
 Thank you all for your advice. Another thing, what's the deal with those 60x sublingual salvia drops they sell on everybodydoesit.co.uk? Do they work for such an inexpensive amount of money?
 
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	10-04-2006, 06:08 PM #17 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesid like..drop those onto plain leaf 
 im sure that would be a nice way to make an extract for cheap[er]
 
 i did salvia once..a few hits of plain leaf. didnt feel much besides rlly high..and me and my friend both agreed that it felt strangely like christmas when i put on this song, its rlly christmasy.
 i need salvia.[SIZE=\"1\"]when the bong\'s makin that sound
 smokes in the chamber, while nuggets gettin ground
 roll it up roll it up roll it up, and smoke it
 flyin high off that herbal shit, i love to toke it
 
 mary mary jane, your buds in my brain
 takin away all the strain, all the pain
 mary mary jane, im gonna get high today
 open my mind and take me away
 
 THC in my blood opens my mind
 helps me relax and unwind
 i love the herb[/SIZE]
 
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	10-04-2006, 08:04 PM #18 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesthen go buy it its not illegal Originally Posted by SkatePopwar Originally Posted by SkatePopwar
 
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	10-04-2006, 09:10 PM #19 Member Member
 Salvia troublesMy advice is to try the 60x standardized extract. 
 I didn't get psychoactive effects until i moved up to 60x.
 It kind of sucks how expensive it is,
 but you don't need much to get "high."
 Happy Sailing![SIZE=\"6\"][align=center]legalize[/align][/SIZE]
 
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	10-04-2006, 10:04 PM #20 Senior Member Senior Member
 Salvia troublesscrew that i only had 10x and i was seein the other side enough already. if i did 60 x i cant even imagine... id go insane for sure Originally Posted by greenbeard Originally Posted by greenbeard
 
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