I'm actually an atheist as far as religion is concerned. I am interested in certain Buddhist texts, and I'm particularly interested in the idea of Zen. What I find objectionable is the self satisfied nature of most people who claim to be Buddhists. I state again, that one cannot be a Buddhist. The ideas behind Buddhism state that one is always in the state of becoming, never being anything. Nothing I've read here convinces me otherwise. Neither intellectually, nor spiritually. I do as much meditating as any Buddhist just by drifting off over the morning paper. I don't mean for it to happen, but it does. We've all done it, drifted off and found ourselves in that strange land between being and knowing. You come out of a reverie and struggle to remember where you were just then. That's real enlightenment, you can never know. The greatest knowledge is knowing that you know nothing.