yes they do look like that.. Yuck I hate those fukers. U sprayed with neem oil today hopefully it kills em I will cntinue to spray every few days. And I may look into that other pest spray you speak of.

the purpal stems on the leaves is that somthing to be concerned with you think Stinky?

I was thinking maybe a Mg Definicy from my city Tap water. Cuz on the tips on some of my big fan leaves are standing up. Like not the end tip of the leaf the little ridges on the outer edge of the whole leaf. I was looking at some piictures and its seemed very similar. I have seen this on some other plants I have grown in the past as well.

But I am sure when the plant is heat stressed it can cause this too. So it could just be that.

Do you think adding 1/2 table spoon / Gallon of epsom salt to my water could hurt my plant if Mg deficency isn't the problem?

thansk for all your help Stinky,, Its always good to see your name in the posts....

kd