First SCRoG cabinet grow, Pics/Updates *here*

[jamstigator]

Looks like a female to me too! Congratulations!

Might want to take some clones off of her before you start flowering. That way, after this batch is done flowering, you'd have as many girls ready to go for the next round as you want. Unless you're going to try a new strain after these, of course.

jamstigator Reviewed by jamstigator on 11-23-2006. First SCRoG cabinet grow, Pics/Updates *here* I noticed that the original thread I made for the grow requires folks to slog through 6 paragraphs of cabinet description to get to the plants, so I've created this new, more directed post. A description of the setup can be found here: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=83760 Short version: Complete newbie growing 4 Skunk #1 seeds under 340w CFL veg, 400w HPS flower, started germination on 9/23/06. Updated status: One seed popped and was planted yesterday. One of the other Rating: 5

[CCIE]

Thanks! I wish I could preserve a few clones, but I'll have to do a bit of travelling after harvest. I'll probably just set up a second round of ThaiTanic from my remaining seeds when I return.

It's a couple days yet to my next picture day, but I've already noticed that the HPS's yellow light is making the plants stretch rapidly even at 24/0. I'm leaving it on in there because they're opening up to the point that they look like everyone else's plants instead of enormous chrysanthemum blossoms. It's already helped light reach the undersized growth near the main stems.

On second thought, an extra picture can't hurt. Based on your experience growing in the identical cabinet, how much longer do you think I ought to veg them before switching to 12/12?
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To help with estimation, the plants' heights from dirt to tip are 9", 11" and 8" from left to right.

By George, I positively have ants in my pants to start flowering!

[jamstigator]

How tall are those pots? If that middle plant is 11" tall dirt-to-tip, how tall is it with that pot? 2.5 feet total? If it's around there, you probably should flower within the next week or two. Which means you have enough time to top the plants (if you haven't already, it's hard to tell) and prune half the stems (to split them into two), and let the plant recover, before you flower.

[CCIE]

The middle plant plus its pot is 18.5 inches, floor to tip. The dirt has compacted so badly that it's 4-5 inches below the top of the pot, and I'm guessing I should lift the plant and add more. I have neither topped nor pruned yet because the darn things have been doing on their own what I understand folks use the methods to potentiate: staying low and branching like mad. --Correction, mid-post I've raised the both Thais by lifting them and adding more dirt. They sit much higher in the pot and a lot more light reaches their nether regions, but I heard roots tear during the process and I fear I've stressed them. What's the standard way to lift a 3-gallon root ball up without tearing roots? -- edit: after lifting, pot+plant=22 inches

Do I dare prune them now? Consider this shot of the stunted thai's center growth:
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It's difficult to tell from the picture, but the crazy thing 'topped itself' twice. There are four near-equally-sized stems surrounding a 'bowl' full of baby nodes. I'm wondering if I can imitate the effect of pruning the plant without additional stress by tying the outer trunks toward the rim of the pot and allowing the numerous small branches to expand.

[jamstigator]

Looks pretty dense in there, yeah. Well, since the plant did the work for you, I'd forego stressing it out more by pruning or topping again, and just flower it in a week or two. One week if it grows like mad, two if it's slow.

I've never lifted a 3-gallon rootball myself. Well, not when I cared if the plant lived anyway. If I had to do it though, I'd let it dry thoroughly, then flip it upside down and tap the bottom of the pot until it comes out, add soil/stuff to the bottom of the pot, then replace the plant and it's rootball on top of the new soil. If it comes out in one big chunk, which it should if it's dry, then doing this shouldn't shock it much or damage the roots. Bugs me when my soil settles down 2-3 inches too, but I just live with it, maybe throw a little extra on top if I can do it without burying too much stem.

[lowryderulez]

wow ccie, i really like your setup and those plants are lookin great, keep it up i cant wait to see them bud! I'l be checkin up on this thread for sure

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[Shovelhandle]

cool thread here.
and thanks for keeping us posted, CCIE

Shov

[CCIE]

Hello, Shovelhandle and Lowryderulez. If this thread has a motto, it's, "Pot's so hardy even HE can't kill it!"

Speaking of which, I've decided that the Cannabis plant is a masochist. This judgment is based both on its
response to trauma and on its failure to evolve legs and flee my stewardship.

Let's contrast the Jamstigator lifting method:

[Let it dry thoroughly, then flip it upside down and tap the bottom of the pot until it comes out."

- with mine -

1. Grab the stem and pretend you're starting a lawn mower.
2. Quickly let go when roots begin to tear, then pause for brief, ineffective thought.
3. Grasp the pot midway down on opposite sides, pick it up and squeeze while grunting like a gorilla.
4. Fill the resulting voids on either side of the flattened root ball with fresh dirt.
5. Reflect on what you've done, write your alma mater and ask them to rescind your degrees.*

Amazingly, both squeezed plants are exploding. Maybe they interpreted it as a hug?



*Possibly situation-specific to me.

[jamstigator]

Lol, well, if the results came out good, then just tell people that's exactly how you planned it all along!

[crazywill]

Hey Guys and Girls,:rastasmoke:
Reading this thread and about repotting your plants.I had the same thing happen to a few of my plants.This why I only use the black nursery pots.
They are cheap and you can get them from landscpacers for $0.00,
I put dirt in the new pot till its full enough to set the pot your repotting is level with the top of the pot.Fill dirt around it and to the top.Pick up the pot a few inches and drop it,this will settle the dirt down alittle.Carefully pick up the old pot.This should leave a hole in the middle of the new pot.The black nursery pots are easy to cut with scissors down both sides and down opposite side. then carefully pick up the hole ball of dirt and put it in the hole in the new pot and add some more dirt around it.Pick up the new pot and drop it like before and add more dirt.Alot less stress on the plant and roots.
Hope this helps,and they are some nice plants you got there too!
Peace:weedpoke: :smokin: