Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet
Howdy Torog,

We're not 'flushing them out' Torog, we're creating them. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Even George Bush finally admitted that. Again, Iraq was the only secular country in the middle east that wouldn't tolerate Clerical rule.

We yanked most of our forces out of Afganistan where they should have been, to invade a neighboring country that was giving our oilmen trouble; in the meantime letting the 9/11 attackers escape. Yes, we should be in Afganistan tearing it apart to find Bin Ladin. But that's only an afterthought because there's no money in it. The bucks are in Iraq.

I like the Cindy Sheehan solution--get our boys out of there before they get their asses shot off! They've been conned into thinking they're defending us from Iraq--a country that's certainly given us a ration of shit, but never attacked us. We've been sold on some fable that we're fighting in Iraq because of terrorism. We're fighting in Iraq because of OIL.

You also have a good one.........
Howdy Hamlet,

You claim that "we're not flushing them out-we're creating them"..lol..give me a break,are ya saying that there were no terrorists till we "created" them ? Did we also "create" nazi's and commies and japanese imperialists too ? The reason that saddam kept Iraq secular,was so he could be the absolute power and rob Iraq of money.

If we are in Iraq,solely for the oil,then why isn't there a steady stream of it,flowing into the Strategic Reserve and our refineries ? I have heard no reports of such..maybe you have ? As for Afghanistan and Pakistan,there are elements in the goverment and military,of both countries,that are protecting usama..maybe if more of the world would help us,we could have enough soldiers there to overwhelm the systemic corruption and sedition there.

In a way,I kinda like the Sheehan solution too,as soon as we pulled out,and abandoned Israel,Iran will attack Israel and force them to start lobbing nukes all over the ME.maybe then,you'll finally understand the enemy that we face over there and the religion that fuels the war.

Have a good one ...