Spy Agencies conclude Iraq War is Increasing Terrorism

[Fengzi]

Yup, just like Japan and Germany....yes.....(when the brought the fight to us)


As far as i can remember they brought the fight to us, Infidel..............


We didnt go looking for a fight....They did, now its time to kick ass.

Or be overrun with muslims like France and Londonistan.....Nope

So, what are we doing in Iraq?? That's the whole point Bong. You should know by now that I'm just as anti-Jihadist as you or Torog. But the people who brought the fight to us aren't in Iraq, they're in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Oddly, it seems they're not as important as propping up Bush's ego. I just can't understand how you can't be pissed off that we've pulled our resources away from where the real threat is. How many brave young Americans have to die simply because taking down Saddam makes Dubya's dick hard. Wouldn't a viagra have made a lot more sense?

[Bong30]

IMO, We are in Iraq just like we say we are.

To get rid of crazy dictator.....On kuwait alone....he was due, should have got him on Deasrt storm... let stormin Normin at his ass...LOL

Install a democracy (ya know, vote for your leader) had to get rid of Saddam for that.

Liberate the people, from Saddam. Seriously, he ruled BY DEATH nice guy

Remember it is still under Muslim Law....In Iraq it is.
1.Islam
2.Goverment
3.people
in that order

Islam first? That is bullshit.

A cornerstone of America. Seperation Of church and state... Im talking Macro, not micro(...IE nativity scene...in front of state building)

Im talking about the first thing is Allah, Mohaamed, and then Iraq. = lame


So for all the people that think we went the to just make them like us Devil westerners.....why did we let them have Islam first?

Peace
Fengzi

[psychocat]

What you forget bong is that America got involved in the politics of Afghanistan and the Middle East and by doing that they pissed off a whole shitload of people thereby creating their own enemies.

If America continues to throw it's weight around and bomb innocent civilians I can see that number of enemies steadily growing , you see the flaw in your logic yet?

America tries to dictate what others can or cannot do simply on the premise of "do as we say or we'll bomb ya" ??????? Thats what you folks call democracy?

I am glad you are not representative of all your countrymen.

PS does GWB not proclaim himself a "God fearin' Christian"?

[Fengzi]

IMO, We are in Iraq just like we say we are.

To get rid of crazy dictator.....On kuwait alone....he was due, should have got him on Deasrt storm... let stormin Normin at his ass...LOL

Install a democracy (ya know, vote for your leader) had to get rid of Saddam for that.

Liberate the people, from Saddam. Seriously, he ruled BY DEATH nice guy

Remember it is still under Muslim Law....In Iraq it is.
1.Islam
2.Goverment
3.people
in that order

Islam first? That is bullshit.

A cornerstone of America. Seperation Of church and state... Im talking Macro, not micro(...IE nativity scene...in front of state building)

Im talking about the first thing is Allah, Mohaamed, and then Iraq. = lame


So for all the people that think we went the to just make them like us Devil westerners.....why did we let them have Islam first?

Peace
Fengzi

Well Bong, you just admitted it. We are in Iraq not because they had wmd's, not because of terrorisim, but "To get rid of crazy dictator". And why this crazy dictator in a world full of them? Because he just happened to be on Dubya's shit list. If that's ok with you then I say "fine, more power to ya" At least you got the balls to call it what it is and not try to sugar coat it by saying it will make us safer from terrorists.

As far as Islam first, I agree, it is bullshit. For us. But if it works for them so who are we to say they're wrong. Some people like NY style pizza, some like Chicago style. Is one wrong and the other right? Should Bloomberg lead an invasion of Chicago to settle it once and for all?

[psychocat]

As far as Islam first, I agree, it is bullshit. For us. But if it works for them so who are we to say they're wrong. Some people like NY style pizza, some like Chicago style. Is one wrong and the other right? Should Bloomberg lead an invasion of Chicago to settle it once and for all?

Very funny man

I like your sardonic soh.

[Bong30]

It is wrong guys..

Have you read what is taught in the Madrassas? They teach that they are above us INFIDELS. It is ok to convert by the sowrd? The christians have learned from thier mistakes and even said sorry.



When the "state" tells you what your religon should be....your FUCKed

Seperation of church and state is missunderstood....it is so the state cant tell US about church....like witch one to go.

[Bong30]

How Islam treats women should be enough to call for a reformation.


^^^^^^anyone on that Idea?^^^^^^^


what about there tollerance for other religons?

[Fengzi]

Well, I'd have to ask a bunch of Muslim women how they felt. If they've got no problem with the way they're treated, then I don't have a problem with it either.

I'm not saying that I agree with what they teach in the Madrassass, and since I am not religious at all, I sure as shit don't want the state telling me what my religion should be. But, if they've got no problem with it, and they don't bother us, then we have no right to try and change them. Now if they come here and try to "convert by the sword" then we should hunt them down like vermin. Until they do, we should leave them alone. I guess that's why I'm so pissed that our focus isn't on the hard core fundy countries but on Iraq instead.