The end of Quick Fix 4.0 ??

[Damon32]

I myself have passed with QF 4.0 and I owe it all to this website. If I had'nt found this sight I probably would have tried one of those useless drinks that so many have failed repeatedly.

My concern is this.....

How long before this trick comes to an end?

I'm sure that companiess and Labs are onto this sort of thing and I'm wondering how much longer before they find a way to defeat this.

I also think that we would all be stupid to think that there are not people watching this site and gathering information about us and the stories that write pertaining to drug tests that we have passed.

I'm just wondering and also worried that someday soon they are going to find a way to defeat us. And will they do it by gathering info that we share?

What are your guys thoughts?

Holla' back

Damon32 Reviewed by Damon32 on 09-23-2006. The end of Quick Fix 4.0 ?? I myself have passed with QF 4.0 and I owe it all to this website. If I had'nt found this sight I probably would have tried one of those useless drinks that so many have failed repeatedly. My concern is this..... How long before this trick comes to an end? I'm sure that companiess and Labs are onto this sort of thing and I'm wondering how much longer before they find a way to defeat this. I also think that we would all be stupid to think that there are not people watching this site Rating: 5

[FakeBoobsRule]

I myself have passed with QF 4.0 and I owe it all to this website. If I had'nt found this sight I probably would have tried one of those useless drinks that so many have failed repeatedly.

My concern is this.....

How long before this trick comes to an end?

I also think that we would all be stupid to think that there are not people watching this site and gathering information about us and the stories that write pertaining to drug tests that we have passed.

I'm just wondering and also worried that someday soon they are going to find a way to defeat us. And will they do it by gathering info that we share?

Quick Fix has been reformulated to keep up with drug testing (I would guess at least 4 times). The change from Quick Fix 3.0 to 4.0 was mainly the addition of creatinine since many drug test now look for creatinine clearance. When they did reformulate it if you had quick fix 3.0 you were able to swap it out for 4.0. Pretty cool huh. It is a game between the labs and the smoker friendly companies and when they find a way to defeat 4.0 then 5.0 will come out. I know there are other synthetics out there and they probably do the same thing, update the formula. Puck technologies even offers dehydrated human urine so there is that animal too. Most of the lab techs who collect samples are well aware of these countermeasures from dilution to sneaking in a substitute in a hiden bottle to the whizzinator. How can this be defeated, with observed urine testing. Apparently there are basically 3 levels of observation: completely unobserved (leaving you in a room by yourself but without a water supply and colored toilet water), monitored (which is to be in the same room but not watching the person, such as being in a multi stall bathroom), and observed which is watching the flow of urine leave the body and enter the cup. I think those are the technical names. Probably thanks to the number of lawyers in this country, unless you do something suspicious before the test like refuse to empty your pockets or remove a jacket or you pull out the quick fix bottle, most drug tests for employment are unobserved. Drug testing for probation and other legal matters (child custody cases, etc) is a different story. A larger number of these tests are monitored or observed because of the legal implications and you are guilty of a crime or the welfare of a child is in question.

If quick fix is defeated and they are unable to find a new formula, you can always get clean and store a supply of frozen clean urine in the freezer. My bigger concern though would be a shift from the unobserved to the observed in testing for jobs.

[Damon32]

Excellent answer. I totally agree, If they start watching us piss then it can be a problem. Unless a major felony is broken, hopefully we'll go un observed.

I'm concerned mostly about the hardworking individuals that recieve randoms and the decent people that seek jobs. Usually random tests and pre employment tests are major concerns around here and your statements were very re assuring....

I'm also a big supporter of "fake boobs". I believe that they can really boost ones self esteem......"snootchie nootchies!"

Thanks,

[DonnieDarko]

The kids seeking jobs ..... whether it be a college kid trying to pay for books, or a young mom workin to pay the bills ..... are tested and sometimes denied employment for smoking a few weeks ago. Somethings wrong with this !!!

Have to disagree with fake boobs .... I think that every breast is a beautiful and unique snowflake .... I say keep'em natural and in the fresh air !!

[FakeBoobsRule]

I'm also a big supporter of "fake boobs". I believe that they can really boost ones self esteem......"snootchie nootchies!"

Good choice.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Have to disagree with fake boobs .... I think that every breast is a beautiful and unique snowflake .... I say keep'em natural and in the fresh air !!

With an implant, that breast is still beautiful and unique. There is nothing wrong with a small, well placed implant under the muscle to improve this beauty.

[Damon32]

:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

snootches to the nootches!!

[Captain Hanks]

I myself have passed with QF 4.0 and I owe it all to this website. If I had'nt found this sight I probably would have tried one of those useless drinks that so many have failed repeatedly.

My concern is this.....

How long before this trick comes to an end?

I'm sure that companiess and Labs are onto this sort of thing and I'm wondering how much longer before they find a way to defeat this.

I also think that we would all be stupid to think that there are not people watching this site and gathering information about us and the stories that write pertaining to drug tests that we have passed.

I'm just wondering and also worried that someday soon they are going to find a way to defeat us. And will they do it by gathering info that we share?

What are your guys thoughts?

Holla' back

I don't know. I highly doubt they'll find a way to beat quick fix 4.0 (and watching you pee doesn't sound like it's going to happen anytime soon, it's just unconstitutional). The thing I'm worried about is that their going to make it illegal.

[FakeBoobsRule]

I don't know. I highly doubt they'll find a way to beat quick fix 4.0

Actually, they could beat quick fix 4.0 now but the problem is the drug test would be about $500 and no employer is going to want to pay that for every new hire.
Some states already have laws banning synthetic urine and other "devices that deceive drug testing" but it is hard to enforce with online sales. They make it hard for shops to carry these "devices" but the internet isn't just for porn.

[nyc_nyc]

Never understimate the power of the knockoff!

QF 4.0 is heaven. I can't imagine stopping for 30+ days and still being nervous when you hand it in. This last time (yesterday - HUGE global investment bank with their OWN testing center) they "semi-supervised" me. Like the guy was right outside my stall and I am a lady! Luckily, I practiced and practiced and had it velcroed to me and knew how not to make noise. I did have to fake tinkle though! LOL. Like open the cap ever so slightly so he wouldn't hear the pour. Oh, another tip- never use that squeeze cap - the airflow makes WAY too much noise. Luckily when that happened (Quest)I was in a shut room.

Also - "fake" breasts. Another piece of heaven on earth!! No woman deserves to live life as an A. Best thing I ever did! Maybe they even helped land my dream job, lol! They sure helped my confidence in all aspects of life - that's the main thing. What I think about myself and my own abilities. And if 375 CCs help, all the better!

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