yeah i agree with you weedman my mother is still in veg and i can clearly see pistils.. there not growing outta control like they would durimng flowering, bu thtey are still there.. and i saw them on her when she was about 3 or 4 weeks old even under 18/6.. but cyclonite when ur plants show there sex to you .. you will know it.. and soon it WIll show deffinitive preflowers.