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10-17-2006, 11:53 PM #1
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In The War On Terror,Liberals Are More Dangerous Than Muslims
I'm just throwing this out here, but today the President signed a bill that will interrogate and prosecute terror suspects. Now, I'm all for getting these extremists and putting them in prison where they belong.. HOWEVER..
The legislation also eliminates some of the rights defendants are usually guaranteed under U.S. law, and it authorizes continued harsh interrogations of terror suspects. In the bill, it says any 'alien' is not guaranteed a writ of Habeas Corpus during these interrogations or detentions. "Alien" is defined as "a person who is not a citizen of the United States"; however, "Unlawful enemy combatant" is defined as a "person"; not an "alien". So this DOES apply to U.S. citizens. Nice bait and switch right there. The framers of this bill intentionally left that 'open' so they can basically hold anyone, U.S. citizen or not without Habeas Corpus.
Under this legislation, the President or his tribunal can declare anybody, citizen or not, to be one of those giving aid and comfort etc., and thus subject to this. So it's basically up to the President and Congress to determine who's bad and who's not.. So if someone is being tortured and they throw out a name of a 'so-called' terrorist or enemy combatant, this person, even a U.S. citizen can be detained without the chance of Habeas Corpus. Once you are considered a detainee, you are fucked. Even if you are 100% innocent.
For those who aren't sure what Habeas Corpus is, here's a lil snip: Habeas Corpus - To have the body - is a very basic principle, but is, more importantly, one of the foundational principles put into the Constitution. It means that if you are detained by a federal, state or local police agent, that agent must announce that you have been taken captive within a limited period (usually three days), must announce why you have been taken captive, and if no crime is charged against you within that period you must be released. The principle exists for a very simple reason - without it, people can be arrested and made to disappear.
The War on Terror is NOT a war. There is no end. No one surrenders. We can't hold people forever; we don't even know what their crimes are! This is one big black stain on the face of American civil liberties.
I always liked this quote from Thomas Jefferson : "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."
Extreme liberals AND conservatives are a danger to our society. That is why everyone of age needs to vote next month and get people into office who give a shit about our rights. What's this Constitution that people speak of?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/....ap/index.html - Link to news story.
http://news.lp.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/...sm/mca2006.pdf - Link to the actual bill that was passed.zephyrinne Reviewed by zephyrinne on . In The War On Terror,Liberals Are More Dangerous Than Muslims In The War On Terror, Liberals Are More Dangerous Than Muslims (Don Feder 9/11 Meditation Alert) Don Feder.com ^ | 09/19/06 | Don Feder Posted on 09/20/2006 3:24:37 AM PDT In a recent commentary, former New York Mayor Ed Koch - a Democrat with at least half a brain (which makes him the leading intellectual light of his party) - asked rhetorically, "Why do so many Americans refuse to face the fact that our country is at war with international terrorism?" Because they're liberals? Rating: 5
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