I wanted to see why everyone loves bics so much, so I got one. I actually got a bic mini because it looked cooler. Not only did it not stay lit the first time I tried it (it was a bit windy out), but the next time, a few days later, I realized how much it sucks. I like to take my hits nice and slow, with a torch lighter this is no problem because the flame goes where you point it. With a bic, you have to suck hard enough to get the flame into the bowl, as a result I got many scooby snacks. I say torch all the way.