i ordered some from them a few years ago, they have changed thier policy a few times, cause then it 2$ a seed with a 10 seed min. i ordered 10 nl and they sent me 10 nb free. i kept 15 and all but one or two germinated and i ended up with 9 females i think. most of them ended up in the woods and grew well for the conditions. i havent grown since so i dont have anything to compare it to-as in fresh grown bud-but it came out pretty nice, bud hadnt ever smell that good before, fresh....