The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)

[Coelho]

Can this be done by just grinding up stems and leaves up in a food processor and putting them into a ball mason jar and dumping 151 on them, seling the jar for 1 or 2 months? The alcohol should break down the cellular of the THC.
and make it easier for absorbion right to the blood stream.

Yes, it also works, if you have the patience to wait that long... just keep it in a dark and cold place (as light destroys the THC).

[VanKee]

I recently (last week) suffered a collapsed lung and don't want to chance smoking again. I recently failed at making sufficiently concentrated butter, so I thought I'd try this.

I drank about a teaspoon-full about 40 minutes ago dissolved in a glass of coke (after drinking a rum and coke ). I definitely feel high, but don't feel it getting any stronger, but I used to smoke kush or purple all day every day so my tolerance is probably pretty high. Tomorrow I will try 2 teaspoons-full.

Some thoughts:
- I used Bacardi 151 since I can't get everclear out here in California.
- I decarboxylized an 1/8th on a sheet of aluminum foil. The temperature got a little above 325 degrees and I noticed a lot of vapor when I pulled it out. Next time I will err on the lower side of 325.
- Some crystals and stickiness stayed on the aluminum foil - i used some pretty good kush. Next time I will run some rum over the foil to try to rinse that off into the cup.
- I used a pretty thick pyrex measuring cup. I put it in a large put of water and then turned on the burner. I found it difficult to get up to 170 degrees even with the burner on high and ended up doing something like 25 minutes at 160-165 degrees. Next time I will try a mason jar which may be a little thinner.

[misslilly]

If while doing other things start boiling just water or just hot out of the tap and heat up the bowl and start with hot water in the pot helps me speed things up. But I also use a small crock pot to keep it hot instead of on the stove.

[VanKee]

6mL worked out great. i talked to a friend who vaporizes all the time and he also said 325 is too hot and suggested 200 for 20 minutes. i'll try that next time and report back.

[dejayou30]

6mL worked out great. i talked to a friend who vaporizes all the time and he also said 325 is too hot and suggested 200 for 20 minutes. i'll try that next time and report back.

I just tried the method from post 1 of page 1. I did 5.7g of homegrown bud and good trim and 3 oz of Everclear (190 proof) two times, and ended up with about 3 oz of liquid total. I put 2 ml of the GD in a beer under the assumption it would be bunk, and I'm about 50 min in and I feel a mild body buzz, but I'm 5 beers in as well so I'm not sure if I'm ust getting drunk or I'm going to be ripped here shortly. Time will tell. :thumbsup:

[dejayou30]

Well 2 ml did nothing to me. I waited 90 minutes and then took some BT's and got really ripped, but 2 hours later I was back to normal. I think I'm gonna try like a tablespoon and see what happens. :jointsmile:

[Coelho]

I did 5.7g of homegrown bud and good trim and 3 oz of Everclear (190 proof) two times, and ended up with about 3 oz of liquid total. I put 2 ml of the GD in a beer (...)

Well... if there are 5.7g of weed dissolved in 3oz (88.7ml) of everclear, each ml of it is equivalent to 5.7/88.7 = 0.064g of weed. So, 2ml of it is equivalent to 0.13g of weed, which i think its a very small amount.

[dejayou30]

Well... if there are 5.7g of weed dissolved in 3oz (88.7ml) of everclear, each ml of it is equivalent to 5.7/88.7 = 0.064g of weed. So, 2ml of it is equivalent to 0.13g of weed, which i think its a very small amount.

True, however the extraction of the THC into the alcohol should be more efficient, making the THC from .13 g worth of herb plenty to get me stoned. The bowls I smoke are usually .2-.4 g, so obtaining 80% or so of THC in the .13 g in the 2 ml of GD compared to obtaining 20% from burning a .2-.4 g bowl, I should get plenty stoned off the .13 in the GD.

Plus, it was 5.7 g per batch, so really there was 11.4 g in 3 oz of GD.

[Coelho]

I didnt see it was 2 batches... so your numbers are the right ones.

Anyway, eating/drinking weed needs a much larger amount of THC for reaching the same level of "highness"... the high from eaten/drank weed is spread on a way longer amount of time, so the high gets very "diluted"...

I measured it by smoking an amount of hash oil (very high % of THC), and then drinking some green dragon made dissolving the same hash oil in alcohol. (The green dragon was drank the next day, so there was no difference in the effects due the tolerance.)

The amount of hash oil i had to dissolve in alcohol to get the same level of highness i got from smoking the hash oil was like 5-6x greater. (Of course, the high i got from drinking the green dragon lasted WAY longer than the high from the smoked oil).

So i concluded that smoking requires roughly 5-6 times less THC to get the same level of highness of drinking it. (What is caused in part by the much shorter high one gets when smokes).

This values may depend on each persons metabolism, but i think they are enough for a rough aproximation.

EDIT: Well... i just see you already calculated different % for eating and smoking... 80% is 4 times 20%, so it seems your numbers already compensated for the difference between smoking and drinking... im sorry... im on the comeup of a psychedelic and my mind isnt working properly... so we should seek other causes for you didnt get high...
Did you drink it with an empty stomach? It makes a large difference... drinking it with a full stomach usually doesnt work at all.

[ky1956]

but I'm 5 beers in as well so I'm not sure if I'm ust getting drunk or I'm going to be ripped here shortly. Time will tell. :thumbsup:

The amount of beer in your system may have overridden the effects of the GD. I have used alcohol to lessen the effects of psychedelics when I overindulged. Next time try it sober on an empty stomach to give the GD every opportunity to do it's stuff. Enjoy