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    Why are you a ?

    The problem with America is that politicians have forgotten how to be statesman. They are more concerned with standing up for their party rather than standing up for their country. Answer me this, ??why are you a Republican/ why are you a Democrat,? I would like to know?


    As for me I am a registered Independent. I firmly believe that I owe political loyalty to no one?they work for me. Quite frankly I??m disgusted with both parties. I lean fairly conservative so I tend to vote that way choosing the lesser of two evils. I believe the ACLU has done more harm than good. I??m pissed of at Bush because he refuses to protect our borders and citizens in the name of economic progress. I??m pissed off at every president since Nixon for not recognizing our need for energy independence and a clean environment. Carter (where do I start?) I loved Reagan but he dropped the ball on AIDS. Clinton was spineless and played games with the public. He also lied to me on national television, when lies were unnecessary. Bush the 1st should have finished the job when we had that cocksucker Saddam right where we wanted him the first time.

    How about you?
    likemclever Reviewed by likemclever on . Why are you a ? The problem with America is that politicians have forgotten how to be statesman. They are more concerned with standing up for their party rather than standing up for their country. Answer me this, ??why are you a Republican/ why are you a Democrat,? I would like to know? As for me I am a registered Independent. I firmly believe that I owe political loyalty to no one?they work for me. Quite frankly I??m disgusted with both parties. I lean fairly conservative so I tend to vote Rating: 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemclever

    How about you?
    I also consider myself Independent, and don't vote party lines.

    I'm with you on everything but Reagan. I voted for him, like many others did, to get rid of Jimmy Carter. Reagan screwed up with the Iran Contra scandal, supplying the Afghanistan rebels with aid and arms, the drug war (??Just Say No?) and other domestic and foreign policies. He was likeable, and "clever" :dance:, but not smart.

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    This is a question mostly for those of us who live in the U.S., I'm gathering.

    I'm a card-carrying, sign-displaying, money-donating, fund-raiser-attending, bracelet-wearing Democrat, although have an emerging independent streak that seems to strengthen as I get older. I think I could in relatively good conscience vote for John McCain, whom I respect. And I've known some appallingly stupid Democrats over the years. There are also plenty of smart ones, too, like Barack Obama and John Edwards, to name just a couple. I respect people of all political affiliations and work hard not to force my own beliefs on anyone else.

    Traditionally, Democrats support public education, matters like health care and welfare/workfare programs, the environment, the arts, equal rights for women, civil rights, abortion rights, equal rights for gays, tax relief for the middle class, religious tolerance, diplomatic approaches to peace in international relations, etc. Those are all things I believe in. I also believe in a strong national defense and in fiscal responsibility, and I know those aren't always matters that are seen as Democratic strong points.

    I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jimmy Carter, who is one of the greatest examples of a humanitarian ex-president, even if his term wasn't regarded as one of our greatest. I also like what Bill Clinton is doing now toward the fight against AIDs in both America and Africa. (I like what Bono and Bill and Melinda Gates are doing, too.) I also believe that George H.W. Bush has a bit of a humanitarian streak these days. Often they become better men after they leave the presidency than they were during it. I have a lot of respect for people who do humanitarian work, particularly in health care, education, and anti-poverty efforts.

    People in the medical community, who tend to be mostly Republicans, often look askance and me and my husband because we don't support the party that would protect our current capitalistic medical system and, for that matter, which provides us the most tax relief. But we cannot in good conscience do that. I'd socialize a lot of things if I were queen for a day, including medicine, and I'd do so because that would benefit far more people than just the top two percent of wage earners. Humanity as a whole is what matters, and not just wealthy, educated humanity.

    Frequently individuals who don't think too deeply but who like to hear themselves uttering what they believe are insightful and critical comments, take refuge in statements like "Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of an equally bad coin." I disagree wholeheartedly. Ideologically we're very different. And no matter what anyone at the very extremes of each party believes, we nonetheless have to be able to work together in order for our country to get anywhere. Deep in my heart, I tend to believe we balance each other out in necessary ways, too, but I'm burying this statement here at the bottom in hopes that no one will take much notice of it.
    [SIZE=\"4\"]\"That best portion of a good man\'s life: his little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love.\"[/SIZE]
    [align=center]William Wordsworth, English poet (1770 - 1850)[/align]

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    Why are you a ?

    Just once....just once!...I would like to vote FOR somebody, instead of AGAINST the other guy.

    At their extremes both parties are completely full of shit. This year I'm voting Democrat to get the sleezeballs out of office and our asses out of a war for oil and Haliburton contracts. Of course once the Democrats are in office the big issue for them will be 'gays in the military', but at this point that sounds pretty good.

    We need election reform where alternative parties have a chance at winning without casting weight to another party when they don't succeed. Just a simple 'alternative' choice on the ballot so that a green party voter doesn't have to contribute to a Republican victory. The Republican Party actually donates heavily to the Green party because they know it takes votes away from the Democrats --but neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are going to allow that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet
    Just once....just once!...I would like to vote FOR somebody, instead of AGAINST the other guy.
    You pretty much summed up my feelings right there.

    I'm registered as an Independent, but I lean to the left and I tend to vote mainly Democrat. However, if a kick-ass Republican were to run for office in '08, you can be damn sure I'd vote for him. But yes, right now there aren't many Republicans I can respect and that can be said for some Democrats too.

    You can be 100% sure that if Hillary runs in '08, I will not vote for her. I'm a female and I don't think this country is ready for a woman to be president. Especially in this day and time.... meh, I just can't see it happening.

    But like Hamlet said.. I just want to be able to vote for someone I actually like, then voting for the lesser of two evils. The first pres. election I could vote in was '04, and I voted for Kerry. Not because I thought he was the best candidate, but because Bush.. ugh, let's just say I hadn't been happy with him ever since 9-11.

    I would love for a strong Independent candidate to run for office, but the way this country is, it's JUST a two party system. The way elections are run and money is such a factor, people only vote on two party lines. The Independent is never given a chance, money wise or debate wise. It needs to be changed so maybe we can get this country turned around. Until then I will continue to vote for the best candidate possible, whether they be a Dem or Pub, or even Ind..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    I also consider myself Independent, and don't vote party lines.

    I'm with you on everything but Reagan. I voted for him, like many others did, to get rid of Jimmy Carter. Reagan screwed up with the Iran Contra scandal, supplying the Afghanistan rebels with aid and arms, the drug war (??Just Say No?) and other domestic and foreign policies. He was likeable, and "clever" :dance:, but not smart.
    I can agree 100% here! I wish I could say the same for Sean Hannity! (I like the guy) I read in ONE article in High Times that Reagan's Alzheimers symptoms first appeared as early as 1986,maybe that's why his judgement wasn't too good!

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    I'm an independent? my leanings tend to swing for pragmatists, which boil down to centrist democrats or liberal republicans. But I can mark the day that I seriously questioned my conservative values as the day I learned Pat Robertson was running for president.

    I'm in favor of a host of "liberal leaning" matters, particulary universal healthcare and reigning in greenhouse gases. I'm also a veteran and despise leaders who use military intervention like a fucking condiment.

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    Why are you a ?

    Quote Originally Posted by zephyrinne
    You can be 100% sure that if Hillary runs in '08, I will not vote for her. I'm a female and I don't think this country is ready for a woman to be president. Especially in this day and time.... meh, I just can't see it happening.
    If Shrillary wins the White House and Slick (I didn't inhale) Willie replaces Kofi Annan as U.N. Secretary General,you can KISS THIS COUNTRY GOODBYE! http://www.intotruth.org/misc/faces.html Here's a pretty scary picture!



    I would love for a strong Independent candidate to run for office, but the way this country is, it's JUST a two party system. The way elections are run and money is such a factor, people only vote on two party lines. The Independent is never given a chance, money wise or debate wise. It needs to be changed so maybe we can get this country turned around. Until then I will continue to vote for the best candidate possible, whether they be a Dem or Pub, or even Ind..
    http://www.gatewood.com/speech.html Tell me what you think of this candidate! Be sure and read his speech,I like him.

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    #9
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    Why are you a ?

    Go Nader...Green party rocks

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    #10
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    Why are you a ?

    The 2 party system is used to keep the elite at the top. Read that a couple times

    fuck the 2 party system... register as a Independant.

    they can shove the 2 party cacuss system and ..... lets become,


    Precision issue voters..................(another Bong30 classic)


    Meaning..... dont even look at the Ds and Rs..... Just educate your self on the candidates and the issues.

    then VOTE with Precision........


    VVVV just like my sig.. not left or right means..... who cares if you rep, dem, it is just right or wrongs.... Like spike lee said.. Do the right thing.....

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