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[Inferius]

On the downside : Cannabis when smoked releases more tar than tobacco Fact.

On the upside : Cannabis has been shown to help MS sufferers

It's about benefits v downside.

Just to go along with this: Cannabis smokers dont smoke a pack a day. One good weed joint will satisfy one novice-to-intermediate smoker for an entire day. And theres always vaporizers, which takes care of SO MUCH tar its a joke.
With vaporizers, and the fact that tobacco smokers smoke far more than a stoner would need to, the whole tar concern is basically gone.

[LIP]

LIP, man, you know I respect and like the heck outta you, but you keep making the statement above about glial cells being the only cells in the brain to turn cancerous, and that's completely untrue. Among the other types of cancers that are found in the brain, all named after the cells they originate from, are neurofibromatomas, ependymomas, meningiomas, adenomas, astrocytomas, oligodendroglial tumors, medulloblastomas, pineocytomas, parenchymal tumors, craniopharyngomas, germ cell cancers, and several others. Annoying as I may be, I can't help but jump in and set the record straight so you don't put the study of neuro-anatomy back 100 yearsâ??or provide falsely reassuring information to someone who may someday get a brain tumor.

The fact is that THC has been shown to inhibit glial cell growth (and hence, we can assume, gliomas, the tumors that originate from those cells) in rat studies. That's as far as the research has gone for now. The hope is that it would do the same thingâ??and even kill those tumor cellsâ??in humans. But that's not been studied or proven yet. I hope it will be studied someday soon. Gliomas are very deadly brain cancers. People who get them rarely live longer than three years; usually glioma patients die within 12 months or less.

Glial cells, by the way, have enormously important function in the brain and are heavily relied upon. Without the support and nutrition of glial cells, the brain couldn't send signals among neurons and synapses. We'd all quickly become vegetables and then die without our glial cells.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glia

Well, its what i've read, and take to be true. Also i think Beachguyinthongs has read the same thing as me, but thankyou for putting me and everyone else right.

The point of the post is still true though, THC doesnt kill brain cells.

[LIP]

Ok, this isnt the oringinal artical i read, but its all i can get.


"Cannabinoids do kill brain cells, but the brain cells they kill are called "Glioma" or Cancer of the brain(Tumor). All other brain cells are protected and healed by cannabinoids. (Glioma cells cannot tolerate the action of cannabinoids)"


"According to a brain function study of 150 depressed people Cannabis protects the brain against healthy cell death and it also protects Neurons."

http://www.thc-ministry.net/cannabisinfo.htm

[Shrooms]

thanks for the finds LIP and Birdgirl. I didn't bother reading all of the link, since I don't fully understand it all as of yet. I also want to become a doctor, but I am still in my second year of highschool, so I have a ways to go .

So basically, in conclusion, the active cannaboids in THC create beneficial anti-inflammitory effects on glioma cells in the brain. These glioma cells are the cells which are ___(are these used as much as other brain cells, how important are they? ive heard people say they are barely used if not useless at all)___________, are the originating cells of about 50% of brain cancers, of which 85% are glio-astrocytoma.

[Cas]

the more I read about pot the more I come to the conclusion that bud was given to man as a way to counteract our self-destructive nature.

[psychocat]

Just to go along with this: Cannabis smokers dont smoke a pack a day. One good weed joint will satisfy one novice-to-intermediate smoker for an entire day..

I smoke a lot more joints than I ever do cigs.
1 joint a day is laughable,

[Inferius]

I smoke a lot more joints than I ever do cigs.
1 joint a day is laughable,

Bah Humbug.

[birdgirl73]

Good for you, Shrooms. Always glad to know a fellow medical "aspirant."

Glial cells basically provide support and nutrition to neurons, which are the cells that think our thoughts and send the signals we use for all aspects of life. We have about 10 times more glial cells than neurons, and they're critically, vitally important. Without glial cells, no aspect of our central or autonomous nervous systems and no aspects of our bodies would work. We couldn't live without glial cells. That's why people die from gliomal tumors faster than they do from neuromas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glia

[Shrooms]

so how would you word this birdgirl? this is what i had said

So basically, in conclusion, the active cannaboids in THC create beneficial anti-inflammitory effects on glioma cells in the brain. These glioma cells are the cells which are ___(are these used as much as other brain cells, how important are they? ive heard people say they are barely used if not useless at all)___________, are the originating cells of about 50% of brain cancers, of which 85% are glio-astrocytoma.

do you mind helping me out with filling that in? i know they are important now, but I'd much rather have you complete it since you know much more than I

[birdgirl73]

so how would you word this birdgirl? this is what i had said

So basically, in conclusion, the active cannaboids in THC create beneficial anti-inflammitory effects on glioma cells in the brain. These glioma cells are the cells which are . . . are the originating cells of about 50% of brain cancers, of which 85% are glio-astrocytoma.

do you mind helping me out with filling that in? i know they are important now, but I'd much rather have you complete it since you know much more than I

Shrooms, hon, it'd be more accurate to say that the active cannabinoids are in marijuana rather than in THC. THC is one of the active cannabinoids, and cannabinoids are contained in marijuana. Then in our bodies and brains, we have cannabinoid receptors that pick up those cannabinoids.

You also want to make sure you say that in humans, THC has been shown to have beneficial anti-inflammatory effects on the glial cells rather than on glioma cells. Glial cells are the healthy brain cells. Gliomas are the cancerous tumors that form from glial cells.

I'll play teacher for a moment, and you think about this. If THC has beneficial anti-imflammatory effects on glial cells in the brain, what might that mean from a health standpoint? That is, what sorts of brain diseases might benefit from THC?

Glial cells (not gliomas--again, gliomas are the cancers) are used for the support and nutrition of neurons, which are sometimes called nerve cells. Our brains have about 10 times as many glial cells as neurons, and they work together to keep us alive. Google neurons so you'll see what those are. Read your neuron information as well as my post above and that glial cell link I gave you so you yourself can explain why they're important. Hint: it's also in the first sentence of this paragraph.

Glial cells are where half of brain cancers originate. Glial cell brain cancers are called astrocytomas, which account for 85% of brain cancers, and are sometimes lumped into a general category called gliomas. As I said two posts ago, one particular type of astrocytoma is the most deadly, and that's called a glioblastoma multiforme (GBM), but the GBM information doesn't matter much.

If you're writing on the benefits of cannabis, though, you'll want to mention something else I told you earlier. That's that in rat studies using immuno-suppressed rats, THC and other cannabinoids have been shown to have a remarkable ability to slow and/or reverse the growth of glioma cancers. So what might we be able to conclude from that if the same were found to be true in humans? That's going to be an important point to make in your paper.

You've gotta fill in the info you need by reading and understanding this information, sweetie, or you won't be learning anything. Just read and reread this post and the last one very slowly and you'll see what you need to say. Make a stab at completing that paragraph, and I'll check it again later after I've done some more studying of my own, OK?