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    Tell us the TRUTH!

    This is a recent speech given by the mayor of Salt Lake City, Rocky Anderson,
    while Bush was visiting his fair city. This is the whole speach, you won't get
    the whole speach on video.
    This is a brave yankee, sounds almost canadian.

    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?
    docId=4292188874545405045&hl=en



    A patriot is a person who loves his or her country.
    Who among you loves your country so much that you have come here today
    to raise your voice out of deep concern for our nation - and for our world?
    And who among you loves your country so much that you insist that our
    nation's leaders tell us the truth?
    Let's hear it: "Give us the truth! Give us the truth! Give us the truth!"
    Let no one deny we are patriots. We love our country, we hold dear the values
    upon which our nation was founded, and we are distressed at what our
    President, his administration, and our Congress are doing to, and in the name
    of, our great nation.
    Blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism.
    A patriot does not tell people who are intensely concerned about their
    country to just sit down and be quiet; to refrain from speaking out in the
    name of politeness or for the sake of being a good host; to show slavish,
    blind obedience and deference to a dishonest, war-mongering, human-
    rights-violating president.
    That is not a patriot. Rather, that person is a sycophant. That person is a
    member of a frightening culture of obedience - a culture where falling in line
    with authority is more important than choosing what is right, even if it is not
    easy, safe, or popular. And, I suspect, that person is afraid - afraid we are
    right, afraid of the truth (even to the point of denying it), afraid he or she has
    put in with an oppressive, inhumane, regime that does not respect the laws
    and traditions of our country, and that history will rank as the worst
    presidency our nation has ever had to endure.
    In response to those who believe we should blindly support this disastrous
    president, his administration, and the complacent, complicit Congress, listen
    to the words of Theodore Roosevelt, a great president and a Republican, who
    said: The President is merely the most important among a large number of
    public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree
    which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or
    inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as
    a whole.
    Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the
    truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him
    when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude
    in an American citizen is both base and servile.
    To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are
    to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
    but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth
    should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to
    tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.
    We are here today as truth-tellers.
    And we are here to demand: "Give us the truth! Give us the truth! Give us the
    truth!"
    We are here today to insist that those who were elected to be our leaders
    must tell us the truth.
    We are here today to insist that our news media live up to its sacred
    responsibility to ascertain and report the truth - rather than acting like
    nothing more than a bulletin board for the lies and propaganda of a
    manipulative, dishonest federal government.
    We have been getting
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    just about everything but the truth on matters of life and death . . . on
    matters upon which our nation's reputation hinges . . . on matters that
    directly relate to our nation's fundamental values . . . and on matters relating
    to the survival of our planet.
    In the process, our nation has engaged in an unnecessary war, based upon
    false justifications. More than a hundred thousand people have been killed -
    and many more have been seriously maimed, brain damaged, or rendered
    mentally ill.
    Our nation's reputation throughout much of the world has been destroyed.
    We have many more enemies bent on our destruction than before our
    invasion of Iraq.
    And the hatred toward us has grown to the point that it will take many years,
    perhaps generations, to overcome the loathing created by our invasion and
    occupation of a Muslim country.
    What incredible ineptitude and callousness for our President to talk about a
    Crusade while lying to us to make a case for the invasion and occupation of a
    Muslim country!
    Our children and later generations will pay the price of the lies, the violence,
    the cruelty, the incompetence, and the inhumanity of the Bush administration
    and the lackey Congress that has so cowardly abrogated its responsibility and
    authority under our checks-and-balances system of government.
    We are here to say, "We will not stand for it any more. No more lies. No more
    pre-emptive, illegal war, based on false information. No more God-is-on-
    our-side religious nonsense to justify this immoral, illegal war. No more
    inhumanity."
    Let's raise our voices, and demand, "Give us the truth! Give us the truth! Give
    us the truth!"
    Let's consider some of the most monstrous lies - lies that have led us, like a
    nation of sheep, to this tragic war.
    Following September 11, 2001, the world knew that Osama bin Laden and al
    Qaeda were responsible for the horrific attacks on our country. Our long-time
    allies were sympathetic and supportive. But our president transformed that
    support into international disdain for the United States, choosing to illegally
    invade and occupy Iraq, rather than focus on and capture the perpetrators of
    the 9/11 attacks.
    Why invade and occupy Iraq? Vice President Dick Cheney and Condoleezza
    Rice represented to us, without qualification, that there were strong ties
    between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.
    In September, 2002, President Bush made the incredible claim that "You can't
    distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam."
    President Bush represented to Congress, without any factual basis
    whatsoever, that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11
    attacks.
    Our President and Vice-President, along with an unquestioning news media,
    repeatedly led our nation to believe that there was a working relationship
    between al Qaeda and the Iraqi government, a relationship that threatened
    the US. Even last week, when I met with Thomas Bock, National Commander
    of the American Legion, I asked him why we are engaged in the war in Iraq.
    He said, "Why, of course, because of the 9/11 attacks on our country." I
    asked, "What did Iraq have to do with those attacks?" He looked puzzled, then
    said, "Well, the connection between al Qaeda and Iraq."
    I was shocked. Here is a man who has criticized us for opposing the war in
    Iraq - and he is completely wrong about the underlying facts used to justify
    this war.
    Not only has there never been any evidence of any involvement by Saddam
    Hussein or Iraq with the attacks on 9/11, but there has never been any
    evidence of any operational connection whatsoever between Saddam Hussein
    and al Qaeda.
    Colin Powell finally conceded there is no "concrete evidence about the
    connection." "The chairman of the monitoring group appointed by the United
    Nations Security Council to track al Qaeda" disclosed that "his team had found
    no evidence linking al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein." And the top investigator
    for our European allies has said, 'If there were such links, we would have
    found them.
    But we have found no serious connections whatsoever.'"
    President Bush himself finally admitted nine days ago during a press
    conference that there was no connection between the attacks on 9/11 and
    Iraq. It's terrific that the President has now admitted what others have known
    for so long - but where is the accountability for the tragic war we were led
    into on the basis of his earlier misrepresentations?
    Besides the fictions of Saddam Hussein somehow being linked to the 9/11
    attacks and his supposed connection with al Qaeda, what was the principal
    justification for forgoing additional weapons inspections, failing to work with
    our allies toward a solution, refraining from seeking additional resolutions
    from the United Nations, and hurrying to war - a so-called "pre-emptive" war
    - in which we would attack and occupy a Muslim nation that posed no
    security risk to the United States, and cause the deaths of many thousands of
    innocent men, women, and children - and the deaths and lifetime injuries to
    many thousands of our own servicemen and servicewomen?
    The principal claim was that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
    destruction - biological and chemical weapons - and was seeking to build up
    a nuclear weapons capability. As we now know, there was nothing - no
    evidence whatsoever - to support those claims.
    President Bush represented to us - and to people around the world - that one
    of the reasons we needed to make war in Iraq - and to do it right away - was
    because Saddam Hussein was seeking to build nuclear weapons. His
    assertions about Saddam Hussein trying to purchase nuclear materials from
    an African nation and about Iraq seeking to obtain aluminum tubes for the
    enrichment of uranium were challenged at the time by our own intelligence
    agency and scientists, yet he didn't tell us that! Ten days before the invasion
    of Iraq, it was proven that the documents upon which President Bush's claim
    about Saddam Hussein trying to obtain uranium was based were forgeries.
    However, President Bush did not disclose that to the American people. By that
    failure, he betrayed each of us, he betrayed our country, and he betrayed the
    cause of world peace.
    Neither did the vast majority of the news media disclose the forgeries - until
    it was far too late. It took our local newspapers here in Salt Lake City four
    months - until after President Bush declared that major combat in Iraq was
    over - to report the discovery that the documents were forgeries - and,
    therefore, that there was no basis for the false claims about Saddam Hussein
    trying to build up a nuclear capability. By its failure to promptly disclose the
    forgeries, the news media betrayed us as well.
    Had the American people known we were being lied to - had President Bush
    informed us that the documents were forged and that he had no other basis
    for his claim - had our nation's media done its job, rather than slavishly
    repeating to us the lies being fed to it by the Bush administration - our nation
    may well not have allowed the commencement of this outrageous, illegal,
    unjustified war.
    To President Bush, to his administration, to our go-along Congress, and to
    our news media, we are here today, demanding, "Give us the truth! Give us
    the truth! Give us the truth!"
    Then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said that high-strength
    aluminum tubes acquired by Iraq were "only really suited for nuclear weapons
    programs," warning "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom
    cloud."
    Undisclosed by President Bush or Condoleezza Rice was the fact that top
    nuclear scientists had informed the Administration that the tubes were "too
    narrow, too heavy, too long" to be useful in developing nuclear weapons and
    could be used for other purposes. Dr. Mohamed El Baradei, director general
    of the International Atomic Energy Agency, agreed.
    So much for the phony claims of Saddam Hussein building nuclear weapons -
    the primary claims justifying the rush to war.
    What were we told about chemical and biological weapons of mass
    destruction? These claims were as baseless and fraudulent as the claims
    about nuclear weapons.
    President Bush told us in his January 2003 State of the Union address that
    Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard
    and VX nerve agent. Then, in May of 2003, he made the outlandish statement
    that, "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological
    laboratories."
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told us, "We know where the [WMDs]
    are." Vice President Cheney and then-Secretary of State Powell also joined in
    the chorus of lies and misinformation about weapons of mass destruction. Of
    course, no stockpiles of biological or chemical weapons were found.
    Bush Administration Weapons Inspector David Kay noted that Iraq did not
    have an ongoing chemical weapons program after 1991-a conclusion
    remarkably similar to statements made by Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice
    before the 9/11 attacks - and before they sacrificed the truth in the service of
    promoting the Bush administration's case for war against Iraq.
    On February 24, 2001, less than 7 months before 9/11, Colin Powell said that
    Saddam Hussein "has not developed any significant capability with respect to
    weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power
    against his neighbors," said Colin Powell.
    And in July 2001, two months before 9/11, Condoleezza Rice said: "We are
    able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."
    It is astounding how they changed their claims after the President decided to
    make a case for the invasion and occupation of Iraq!
    To think that we could be lied to by so many members of the Bush
    administration with such impunity is frightening - chilling. Yet these
    imperious, arrogant, dishonest people think we should just fall in line with
    them and continue to take them at their word.
    The truth has been established. Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks
    on the United States. There is no evidence of any operational ties between
    Iraq and al Qaeda. And there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
    What a tragedy, leading to greater tragedy. We are fed lie after lie, our media
    reinforces those lies, and we are a nation led to a tragic, illegal, unprovoked
    war.
    We are here because of our values. We love our country. We cherish the
    freedoms and liberties of our country. We don't call those who speak out
    against our nation's leaders unpatriotic or un-American or appeasers of
    fascists. We have good, wholesome family values. In our families, we teach
    honesty, we teach kindness and compassion toward others, we teach that
    violence, if ever justified, must be an absolutely last resort. In our families, we
    teach that our nation's constitutional values are to be upheld, and that they
    are worth standing up and fighting for. Our family values promote respect
    and equal rights toward everyone, regardless of race, ethnic origin, and
    sexual orientation.
    In our families, we teach the value of hard work and competence - and we are
    left to wonder about a President who, after receiving an intelligence memo
    about the threat posed by al Qaeda, decides to continue his month-long
    vacation - just before the 9/11 attacks on our country.
    As we demand the truth from others, let us also face the truth. Our
    government all too often has not cared about the human rights of people in
    other nations - and it doesn't really care about democracy, unless it leads to
    the election of those who will do our bidding.
    Consider the irony regarding the claims that Saddam had chemical weapons
    and, because of that, we needed to rush to war in Iraq. When Saddam Hussein
    was using chemical weapons - first against Iranians, then against his own
    people, the Kurds - our country provided him with biological and chemical
    agents and equipment to make the weapons. Presidents Reagan and George
    H.W. Bush refused even to support economic sanctions against Hussein for
    his use of weapons of mass destruction.
    What did our nation do in response to Hussein's use of chemical weapons,
    killing tens of thousand of people, when he actually had them?
    We befriended, coddled, and rewarded him - with government-guaranteed
    loans totaling $5 billion since 1983, freeing up currency for Hussein to
    modernize his military assets.
    Perhaps those in the US government who aided and abetted Saddam Hussein
    to further US business interests, while he was gassing the Kurds, should be
    sharing his courtroom dock as he is being tried now for crimes against
    humanity.
    No more lies, no more hiding of the truth, no more wars that more than triple
    the value of stock in Dick Cheney's prior employer, Halliburton - and which,
    as of last September, has increased the value of the Halliburton CEO's stock
    by $78 million.
    We are patriots. We're deeply concerned. And we demand change, now.
    No more lies from Condoleezza Rice about whether she and President Bush
    were advised before 9/11 of the possibility of planes being flown into
    buildings by terrorists.
    No more gross incompetence in the office of the Secretary of Defense.
    No more torture of human beings.
    No more disregard of the basic human rights enshrined in the Geneva
    Convention.
    No more kidnapping of people and sending them off to secret prisons in
    nations where we can expect they will be tortured.
    No more unconstitutional wiretapping of Americans.
    No more proposed amendments to the United States Constitution that would,
    for the first time, limit fundamental rights and liberties for entire classes of
    people simply on the basis of sexual orientation.
    No more federal land giveaways to developers.
    No more increases in mercury emissions from old, dirty, dangerous
    coalburning power plants.
    No more backroom deals that deprive protection for millions of acres of wild
    lands.
    No more attacks on immigrants who work so hard to build better lives.
    No more inaction by Congress on fixing our hypocritical and inconsistent
    immigration laws and policies.
    No more reliance on fiction rather than the science of global warming.
    No more manipulation of our media with false propaganda.
    No more disastrous cuts in funding for those most in need.
    No more federal cuts in community policing and local law enforcement grant
    programs for our cities.
    No more inaction on stopping the genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan.
    No more of the Patriot Act.
    No more killing.
    No more pre-emptive wars.
    No more contempt for our long-time allies around the world.
    No more dependence on foreign oil.
    No more failure to impose increased fuel efficiency standards for
    automobiles.
    No more energy policies developed in secret meetings between Dick Cheney
    and his energy company cronies.
    No more excuses for failing to aggressively cut global warming pollutant
    emissions.
    No more tragically incompetent federal responses to natural disasters.
    No more tax cuts for the wealthiest, while the middle class and those who are
    economically-disadvantaged continue to struggle more and more each year.
    No more reckless spending and massive tax cuts, resulting in historic deficits
    and historic accumulated national debt.
    No more purchasing of elections by the wealthiest corporations and
    individuals in the country.
    No more phony, ineffective, inhumane so-called war on drugs.
    No more failure to pass an increase in the minimum wage.
    No more silence by the American people.
    This is a new day. We will not be silent. We will continue to raise our voices.
    We will bring others with us. We will grow and grow, regardless of political
    party - unified in our insistence upon the truth, upon peace-making, upon
    more humane treatment of our brothers and sisters around the world.
    We will be ever cognizant of our moral responsibility to speak up in the face
    of wrongdoing, and to work as we can for a better, safer, more just
    community, nation, and world.
    So we won't let down. We won't be quiet. We will continue to resist the lies,
    the deception, the outrages of the Bush administration. We will insist that
    peace be pursued, and that, as a nation, we help those in need. We must
    break the cycle of hatred, of intolerance, of exploitation. We must pursue
    peace as vigorously as the Bush administration has pursued war. It's up to all
    of us to do our part.
    Thank you everyone for lending your voices to this call for compassion, for
    peace, for greater humanity. Let us keep in mind the injunction of Dr. Martin
    Luther King, Jr.: "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about
    things that matter."
    hempity Reviewed by hempity on . Tell us the TRUTH! This is a recent speech given by the mayor of Salt Lake City, Rocky Anderson, while Bush was visiting his fair city. This is the whole speach, you won't get the whole speach on video. This is a brave yankee, sounds almost canadian. http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf? docId=4292188874545405045&hl=en Rating: 5

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  3.     
    #2
    Senior Member

    Tell us the TRUTH!

    Nationalism is a very dangerous thing. You really shouldn't love any country. We are all one.

  4.     
    #3
    Senior Member

    Tell us the TRUTH!

    Patriotism is the virtue of the violent, Oscar Wilde

    There is no room in me for racism nor patriotism.I was born on a big blue ball spinning and floating in a vast unknown ether no one really knows the location of. Not much can be counted as serious when you don't even know where you are, and no one will tell you.

    There are no real countries on my planet just regions of influence inhabited by the survivors of the multitude of aesthetic challenges, on this beautiful blue ball.

    We can leave at anytime we wish, we are just not told the location of where we are going, nor how long we might have to stay, only that the trip is mandatory. Denizens of said blue ball instigate more challenging challenges when there are apparently not enough to go around, prompting some to perhaps leave prematurely and in great haste.

  5.     
    #4
    Senior Member

    Tell us the TRUTH!

    Quote Originally Posted by Great Spirit
    Nationalism is a very dangerous thing. You really shouldn't love any country. We are all one.
    We tried one world government under Nimrod around 2286 B.C.E. or so at the Tower of Babel! You KNOW what happened there! The scatterin' of the people and the confoundin' of our language,leadin' us to speak DIFFERENT languages tells us we SHOULDN'T be formin' a one world government,whether you believe in God or NOT!

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