Al Gore?

[joebhoy]

Did Al Gore really win the first election?

Were ten's of thousand's of black people denied there right to vote just because they weren't going to vote for Bush?

joebhoy Reviewed by joebhoy on 09-08-2006. Al Gore? Did Al Gore really win the first election? Were ten's of thousand's of black people denied there right to vote just because they weren't going to vote for Bush? Rating: 5

[pisshead]

in short...yes to the black people taken off the voter rolls, but there's more to it than that. and we can't forget that george dubya, bill clinton, al gore, bush sr. all work for the same people. they're all puppets working against our country and the constitution...

it's a matter of which 'side' you want to be raped by...before the other 'side' gets their chance...

don't forget though, greg palast is a likely terrorist (see my recent post about palast)...he has however done some of the best reporting about the 's'elections...

PAUL KRUGMAN DOESN'T KNOW THE HALF OF IT

Thursday Dec 4, 2003

VISUALIZE A FAIR ELECTION IN 2004
YES! Magazine
Friday Aug 22, 2003
The techniques that brought us Florida 2000 are catching on across the U.S. Add unverifiable electronic voting, and we could see the most questionable election yet. Greg Palast and Ina Howard deal with the problem of how to reclaim the vote.

PETITION: STOP THE FLORIDA-TION OF THE 2004 ELECTION
Tuesday May 27, 2003
Petition: Stop the Florida-tion of the 2004 election

JIM CROW REVIVED IN CYBERSPACE
BY GREG PALAST & MARTIN LUTHER KING III
Baltimore Sun
Tuesday May 13, 2003
King Day version: Greg Palast and Martin Luther King III on the disenfranchisement of African American voters.

JIM CROW REVIVED IN CYBERSPACE
The Baltimore Sun
Thursday May 8, 2003
Martin Luther King III and Greg Palast on the absurdly named "Help America Vote Act," which requires every state to replicate Florida's system of centralized, computerized voter files before the 2004 election

BULLY MAGAZINE INTERVIEW: GREG PALAST, THE LAST TRUE OUTLAW JOURNALIST
Bully Magazine
Sunday Apr 27, 2003
Ken Wohlrob of Bully Magazine interviews Greg Palast

WINNING THE ELECTION â?? THE REPUBLICAN WAY: RACISM, THEFT AND FRAUD IN FLORIDA
The Weekly Dig, Boston, MA
Tuesday Apr 22, 2003
What really happened in the Florida election of 2000

GIL NOBLE OF ABC'S "LIKE IT IS" INTERVIEWS GREG PALAST (TRANSCRIPT)
ABC News
Monday Apr 21, 2003
Transcript of Gil Rogers interview with Greg Palast

TRUTH IN EXILE
Creative Loafing
Friday Apr 11, 2003
Creative Loafing's John Sugg talks to Greg Palast about corporate malfeasance and the botched 2000 election.

DIRTY DEALINGS IN DATA
Jim Hightower's Lowdown
Saturday Apr 5, 2003
Jim Hightower gives the lowdown on dirty data dealers, such a ChoicePoint.

ERIC BOSSE REVIEWS "THE BEST DEMOCRACY MONEY CAN BUY" FOR ALTERNET
AlterNet.org
Thursday Mar 20, 2003
Eric Bosse reviews "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" for Alternet

ANYBODY USING THIS FIRST AMENDMENT?

GREG PALAST INTERVIEWED BY ERIC BOSSE FOR ALTERNET
http://www.alternet.org
Tuesday Mar 18, 2003
Anybody Using This First Amendment? Anybody Using This First Amendment? Greg Palst interviewed by Eric Bosse for AlterNet

CITIZENS FOR LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT INTERVIEWS GREG PALAST
Monday Mar 17, 2003
Citizens for Legitimate Government Interviews Greg Palast

ONLINE JOURNAL'S LINDA STARR INTERVIEWS GREG PALAST
Online Journal
Monday Mar 17, 2003
Online Journal's Linda Starr interviews Greg Palast

WAKE-UP CALL
Resource Center of the Americas.org
Wednesday Mar 12, 2003
Mark Gemmell reviews the new US edition of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy

COUNTING ON DEMOCRACY
Wednesday Mar 12, 2003
Film featuring Greg Palast's investigative reporting into the 2000 Florida election fiasco now available to individuals and groups

ALEX JONES INTERVIEWS GREG PALAST AS NEW BOOK IS RELEASED
Friday Mar 7, 2003
Transcript of radio interview by Alex Jones

INTERVIEW WITH MIKE HERSH
MikeHersh.com
Thursday Feb 20, 2003
Interview with Mike Hersh of MikeHersh.com and BushOccupation.com

GREG PALAST / JOURNALIST WHO INVESTIGATED THE 2000 ELECTORAL FRAUD IN THE USA.
El Mundo
Tuesday Nov 5, 2002
"Jeb Bush has his own reelection arranged"

A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW
Buzzflash.com
Monday Nov 4, 2002
Greg Palast, Author of "Best Democracy Money Can Buy," Exposes the Continued Suppression of Florida's Black Vote in Election 2002

EXCLUSIVE EXPOSÃ? IN SALON: JEB BUSH BARS BLACK VOTERS FROM TUESDAY POLL
Salon Magazine
Friday Nov 1, 2002
Jeb Crow?

EXILE ON MAINSTREAM
Pulp
Thursday Oct 31, 2002
Journalist Greg Palast talks about the disenfranchisement of African-American voters in Florida and why the media failed to report the story

KATHERINE HARRIS SAYS PALAST 'TWISTED AND MANIACAL' - IN JULY HARPER'S
Harper's Magazine
Tuesday Jun 25, 2002
Have I upset Kate? Darn. The Florida Secretary of State has sent me a heartfelt billet-doux in time for my birthday.

BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW - THE THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM
Buzzflash
Thursday Jun 6, 2002
Palast reveals the letter he received from Katherine Harris, Cruella herself

DISPATCHES FROM EXILE
San Francisco Bay Guardian
Wednesday Jun 5, 2002
American investigative reporter Greg Palast says he had to move to England to blow the lid off U.S. corporate power brokers and political corruption.

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SUIT A "SHAM" TO PROTECT HARRIS, BUSH
Wednesday May 22, 2002
Yesterday's Justice Department announcement of a suit against Florida counties for purging Black voters from voter rolls and other violations of civil rights is the result, and vindication, of the investigations of BBC Television reporter Greg Palast.

EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG
Sunday May 12, 2002
This phone-book sized compendium of killer investigative reports published by Disinformation Press begins with a shorter version of Greg's essay on the World Bank and IMF found in The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: GLOBALIZATION AND ITS DISCONTENTS

BUZZFLASH INTERVIEWS GREG PALAST
Buzzflash.com
Monday Mar 11, 2002
We are honored to post our second interview with Greg Palast, an investigative reporter for the BBC and the Observer (sister paper of the Guardian).

DEMOCRATS.COM CHAT WITH GREG PALAST
Democrats.com
Friday Mar 8, 2002
Hosted by Bob Fertik with David Lytel

THE GREAT FLORIDA EX-CON GAME
HOW THE 'FELON' VOTER-PURGE WAS ITSELF FELONIOUS
Harper's Magazine
Friday Mar 1, 2002
In November the U.S. media, lost in patriotic reverie, dressed up the Florida recount as a victory for President Bush. But however one reads the ballots, Bush's win would certainly have been jeopardized had not some Floridians been barred from casting ballots at all. Between May 1999 and Election Day 2000, two Florida secretaries of state - Sandra Mortham and Katherine Harris, both protégées of Governor Jeb Bush- ordered 57,700 "ex-felons," who are prohibited from voting by state law, to be removed from voter rolls. (In the thirty-five states where former felons can vote, roughly 90 percent vote Democratic.) A portion of the list, which was compiled for Florida by DBT Online, can be seen for the first time here; DBT, a company now owned by ChoicePoint of Atlanta, was paid $4.3 million for its work, replacing a firm that charged $5,700 per year for the same service. If the hope was that DBT would enable Florida to exclude more voters, then the state appears to have spent its money wisely.

THE WRONG WAY TO FIX THE VOTE
The Washington Post
Sunday Jun 10, 2001
If you liked the way Florida handled the presidential vote in November, you'll just love the election reform laws that have passed since then...

SILENCE OF THE MEDIA LAMBS: THE ELECTION STORY NEVER TOLD
www.tompaine.com
Thursday May 24, 2001
Investigative reporting about voting rights violations in the US have been page one news---in Britain.

INQUIRY INTO NEW CLAIMS OF POLL ABUSES IN FLORIDA (BY JULIAN BORGER AND GREGORY PALAST)
The Guardian (London)
Saturday Feb 17, 2001
The US civil rights commission was yesterday investigating allegations by the BBC's Newsnight that thousands of mainly black voters in Florida were disenfranchised in the November election because of wholesale errors by a private data services company.

"THEFT OF THE PRESIDENCY"
BBC-TV Newsnight
Thursday Feb 15, 2001
This is the transcript of Gregory Palast's appearance on BBC News' Newsnight on February 16, 2001. View the full video here.

SCRUB HELPS SHRUB
The Nation
Monday Feb 5, 2001
The company that the Florida secretary of state contracted with in 1998 to help purge the state rolls of ineligible voters is well connected to GOP circles.

FLORIDA'S 'DISAPPEARED VOTERS': DISFRANCHISED BY THE GOP
The Nation
Monday Feb 5, 2001
On November 7 tens of thousands of eligible Florida voters were wrongly prevented from casting their ballots. Nearly all were Democrats, nearly half of them African-American.

A BLACKLIST BURNING FOR BUSH
The London Observer
Sunday Dec 10, 2000
The more you look the more disbarred and 'disappeared' Gore voters you find. You'd almost think it was deliberate.

FLORIDA'S FLAWED "VOTER-CLEANSING" PROGRAM - SALON.COM'S POLITICS STORY OF THE YEAR
www.Salon.com
Monday Dec 4, 2000
Salon.com's Politics Story of the Year. Florida Republican leaders hired a private firm to vet the rolls for felons which wrongly kept thousands, particularly blacks, from casting ballots

BUSH FAMILY FINANCES: BEST DEMOCRACY MONEY CAN BUY
The London Observer
Sunday Nov 26, 2000
Gregory Palast examines the sources of the $500m that boosted Bush's bid for the White House.

[Bong30]

Fuck Al Gore..... I dont care much for Bush,I.e. not tough enough on borders or terrorist, but Gore? Please.... You can do better than that... Ohh wait maybe you cant...LOL

[Ozarks]

Did Al Gore really win the first election?

Were ten's of thousand's of black people denied there right to vote just because they weren't going to vote for Bush?

No and no

[joebhoy]

Who is the puppetmaster though in America?

The Senate?

Congress?

[Bong30]

The Federal Reserve............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve

[pisshead]

there are a dozen or so elite families that own much of the wealth of the world and control the printing of the fiat currency...

rockefeller, rothschild, saxe-coburg-gotha, russell, dupont, freeman, kennedy, li, reynolds, van duyn, krupp, onassis, astor, various royalties around the world, those invited to the bilderberg meetings every year...there's more i'm forgetting right now...but you can start looking into it...

follow the money...it far surpasses the senate and congress and president and supreme court...

The Money Powers

I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.
Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin less than five months before he was assassinated.

The money power preys on the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes.
Abraham Lincoln

A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men....
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
Woodrow Wilson - In The New Freedom (1913)

The fact is that there is a serious danger of this country becoming a pluto-democracy; that is, a sham republic with the real government in the hands of a small clique of enormously wealth men, who speak through their money, and whose influence, even today, radiates to every corner of the United States.
William McAdoo - President Wilson's national campaign vice-chairman, wrote in Crowded Years (1974)

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
Thomas Jefferson

The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our Constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction... I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity... is but swindling futurity on a large scale.
Thomas Jefferson

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the Government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson

... To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition. The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill [chartering the first Bank of the United States], have not, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution.
Thomas Jefferson - in opposition to the chartering of the first Bank of the United States (1791).

We have stricken the (slave) shackles from four million human beings and brought all laborers to a common level not so much by the elevation of former slaves as by practically reducing the whole working population, white and black, to a condition of serfdom. While boasting of our noble deeds, we are careful to conceal the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which,though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery.
Horace Greeley - (1811-1872) founder of the New York Tribune

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
Frederic Bastiat - (1801-1850) in Economic Sophisms

The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.
Prof. Carroll Quigley in Tragedy and Hope

In a small Swiss city sits an international organization so obscure and secretive....Control of the institution, the Bank for International Settlements, lies with some of the world's most powerful and least visible men: the heads of 32 central banks, officials able to shift billions of dollars and alter the course of economies at the stroke of a pen.
Keith Bradsher of the New York Times, August 5, 1995

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is eager to enter into close relationship with the Bank for International Settlements....The conclusion is impossible to escape that the State and Treasury Departments are willing to pool the banking system of Europe and America, setting up a world financial power independent of and above the Government of the United States....The United States under present conditions will be transformed from the most active of manufacturing nations into a consuming and importing nation with a balance of trade against it.
Rep. Louis McFadden - Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency quoted in the New York Times (June 1930)

Nothing did more to spur the boom in stocks than the decision made by the New York Federal Reserve bank, in the spring of 1927, to cut the rediscount rate. Benjamin Strong, Governor of the bank, was chief advocate of this unwise measure, which was taken largely at the behest of Montagu Norman of the Bank of England....At the time of the Banks action I warned of its consequences....I felt that sooner or later the market had to break.
Money baron Bernard Baruch in Baruch: The Public Years (1960)

The Federal Reserve Bank is nothing but a banking fraud and an unlawful crime against civilization. Why? Because they "create" the money made out of nothing, and our Uncle Sap Government issues their "Federal Reserve Notes" and stamps our Government approval with NO obligation whatever from these Federal Reserve Banks, Individual Banks or National Banks, etc.
H.L. Birum, Sr., American Mercury, August 1957, p. 43

[The] abandonment of the gold standard made it possible for the welfare statists to use the banking system as a means to an unlimited expansion of credit.... In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holdings illegal, as was done in the case of gold.... The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.... [This] is the shabby secret of the welfare statist's tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights.
Alan Greenspan in an article he wrote in 1966.

[pisshead]

What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based upon shared principles and the rule of law.... The illumination of a thousand points of light.... The winds of change are with us now.
President Bush - In his State of the Union message during the Gulf War.

It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance.
President Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N., February 1, 1992

We have a much bigger objective. We've got to look at the long run here. This is an example - the situation between the United Nations and Iraq - where the United Nations is deliberately intruding into the sovereignty of a sovereign nation.... Now this is a marvelous precedent (to be used in) all countries of the world...."
Stansfield Turner, CFR member and former CIA director, when asked about Iraq on CNN during the gulf war.

We are beginning to see practical support. And this is a very significant sign of the movement towards a new era, a new age.... We see both in our country and elsewhere... ghosts of the old thinking.... When we rid ourselves of their presence, we will be better able to move toward a new world order...relying on the relevent mechanisms of the United Nations.
Soviet President Gorbachev at the Middle East Peace Talks in Madrid (1991)

In my view The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical. All this is to be done in the interest of creating a more peaceful, more productive world community. What the Trilateralists truly intend is the creation of a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation-states involved. They believe the abundant materialism they propose to create will overwhelm existing differences. As managers and creators of the system they will rule the future.
U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater, Republican candidate for President in 1964, in With no Apologies

From the days of Sparticus Wieshophf, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg, and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
Winston Churchill quoted by the London Press in 1922

... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people - will hate the new world order - and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.
H. G. Wells, in The New World Order (1939)

[birdgirl73]

there are a dozen or so elite families that own much of the wealth of the world and control the printing of the fiat currency...

rockefeller, rothschild, saxe-coburg-gotha, russell, dupont, freeman, kennedy, li, reynolds, van duyn, krupp, onassis, astor, various royalties around the world, those invited to the bilderberg meetings every year...there's more i'm forgetting right now...but you can start looking into it...

follow the money...it far surpasses the senate and congress and president and supreme court...
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Pissy, among other things, postings like the one above are why you're so frequently not credible, just as the PrisonPlanet, etc., sources you list again and again are laughable.

Those names above are certainly associated with money or at least a history of it, but you need to do some further research yourself if you think those are the names that own most of the wealth of the world today. Gates, Buffet, the Walton family, the Mars family, Paul Allen, the Al Saud family, the Albrechts and many others far, far exceed those people you listed, but perhaps you were meaning to list only influential/formerly influential banking and industry families.

The house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, by the way, is almost redundant when listed alongside the term "various royalties." Unless you mean other-than-European royalties, that is. Thanks to Prince Albert and Queen Victoria's affection for one another, that lineage IS various royalties. Nowadays, HRH Mrs. Elizabeth Mountbatten-Windsor is the wealthiest of that bunch.

[likemclever]

No to both questions....