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    #181
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    The Chicken Killers!!!

    The truth is what ever you believe it to be. I do not agree why is fat fat, what does fat mean, who told you this, is fat overweight, what is overweight....don't you get it everything around you and your perceptions could be the untruth...ONLY THE UNIVERSE KNOWS!!!!!
    Kona Daze the Only Way to Go....

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    #182
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mikee1422
    resinate, complete logic in what you say, but you can not fool destiny, my question why can't we fool destiny, what the big deal and why is it that way.... only the truth will tell.....
    Ah, now you are talking lol

    There are two factors that ultimately rule our lives (imo)

    First there is DESTINY.
    DESTINY is the the place where we end up, after all the trials and tribulations of our lives are expended. We do not know our destiny, for to know that would upset our journey and path to it. Our destiny is a thing that is beyond our comprhension of life. It could be something as simple as getting run down by a car.

    Secondly, there is FATE.
    FATE is the thing that steers us along the path to our destiny. It (She) provides us with life changing situations that we must approach with the tools gained from previous lessons from FATE. Or, some might call it a choice.

    I think of life as being a corridor of rooms, and each room is a 'lesson' from FATE that gains us an experience that we can draw upon in later life.
    Sometimes, those lessons are harsh and obscure.
    But, if we look back upon our lives, we will see that those lessons were necessary in order to get us to where we are now.

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    #183
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    You have a good point, my question is that maybe if we knew the truth, destiny might not come into play, it would be everlasting bliss and of course fate will always be there shit happens, but with the truth IE everlasting bliss who would care
    Kona Daze the Only Way to Go....

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    #184
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mikee1422
    The truth is what ever you believe it to be. I do not agree why is fat fat, what does fat mean, who told you this, is fat overweight, what is overweight....don't you get it everything around you and your perceptions could be the untruth...ONLY THE UNIVERSE KNOWS!!!!!
    lol..because, my interpretation of the truth is that 'fat', is 'overweight'
    I have no other reference to draw upon, when addressing the issue of what is 'fat'. Therefore, my 'truth' (what I believe it to be), is that 'fat' is 'overweight'.

    'Fat' is just a verbal (and written) reference, or description of a physical state.

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    #185
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    Come on,,,, are you telling me that you are not a seeking mind, I do not believe that after talking to you for the last half hour
    Kona Daze the Only Way to Go....

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    #186
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    If we knew the truth, we would not be...it's as simple as that.

    Humans need a belief system to qualify their existence.
    It's sentience.
    Without a qualification to our existence, then there would be worldwide anarchy lol

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    #187
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    lol...I am a seeking mind, but I fail to see my questions answered in human form.
    I try to think outside of the human box, but it is all just conjecture, isn't it?

    I'm not religious, so I find no answers there.

    Where else do I look?

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    #188
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    Exactly my point of the truth being the end.... when that comes only the universe knows, everything we say, see believe is based on beliefs....
    Oh, so we have a perfect society or is it one of sophisticated anarchy...hmmm
    Kona Daze the Only Way to Go....

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    #189
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    Do you damnest to get in tune with the universe and everything that is has provided for us, I fault every damn day of my life but I try to stay in tune with the Mother and am alway indebted for everything that the universe has done for us, Big Bang the chances of what happened umpteen trillion years ago to put us where we are today is infinitissmly to almost impossible, but it happened, I always wonder why, don't you......

    Quote Originally Posted by RESiNATE
    lol...I am a seeking mind, but I fail to see my questions answered in human form.
    I try to think outside of the human box, but it is all just conjecture, isn't it?

    I'm not religious, so I find no answers there.

    Where else do I look?
    Kona Daze the Only Way to Go....

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    #190
    Senior Member

    The Chicken Killers!!!

    lol..our society is far from perfect, of that you can be sure.
    I despise the protocol of society, and choose to distance myself as far from it as I can.

    So, you think that the Universe is sentient?
    What drives the universe?
    To what ends does the Universe choose to hide from us the truth?

    Sophisticated anarchy?
    No, control by propoganda, I think lol

    The masses are like sheep; they are told how to think, how to act, and how to live their lives.
    The protocol demands that they conform to a set of ideals that are pertinent to them and their needs.
    To break from the protocol (or society's dictates) will see you enter a very lonely and alienated existence - because you do not conform to it's ideals.

    However, there is a bigger picture, I believe, one that is hidden from even those who design the protocol.
    The Universe, as you call it.

    But, what drives the Universe?
    And why?

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