as long as we use money, we can never have a utopian society. Shit, because mankind is geneticly greedy, we will never have a utopia to live in. Besides, we will all be dead for hundreds of years before any major changes in society like the elimination of cruel animal breeding/butchering happen. Its admiral that people want to save em and all but isent it mankinds right, being the dominant species on the planet, top of the food chain, to manipulate lesser creatures for whatever purposes we see fit? (i kinda want to see this thread spiral outta control, up into the 8+ range LoL)

uh, but to my point. I agree that money is the problem if thats what Res and Imotep and Sawleaf are proposing