true...it should be the most obvious concern. maybe because you can't judge right and wrong on a scale, cant take measurments of it with an instrument.

Murder is defined:

The unlawful killing of a human being with deliberate intent to kill: (1) murder in the first degree is characterized by premeditation; (2) murder in the second degree is characterized by a sudden and instantaneous intent to kill or to cause injury without caring whether the injury kills or not.

hmm...so why is it defined this way? you know the guy who wrote this definition probably had a bunch of steak in his freezer and didnt want to feel guilty.

anyway, good point, says me. killing without need.. to me, is murder. human or not. ive met a lot of nice animals and a lot of mean people!