I've tried experimenting taking pics in the old garden using manual. A tripod Is a must for close-ups and working with slow shutter speeds. I just managed to hold the camera steady enough to catch my closest (most zoomed in) bud pic to date here i'm impressed but not satisfied. Still need a lot of practice I think, and I'm not keen on the grainy textures.. Might go back to film and darkroom ops. Bookmarked the link! Sorted psychocat