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    Al-Jazeera airs pre-9/11 bin Laden tape

    By Bassem Mroue, Associated Press Writer | September 7, 2006

    CAIRO, Egypt --Al-Jazeera broadcast Thursday a previously unshown video of the preparations for the Sept. 11 attacks, in which al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden is seen meeting with some of the planners in an Afghan mountain camp.

    The station said that bin Laden also is shown greeting some of the hijackers, although their faces were not clear and it was not immediately known which are purportedly shown.

    The video included the last wills and testaments of hijackers Wail al-Shehri and Hamza al-Ghamdi.

    Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the video, which was produced by As-Sahab, al-Qaida's media branch. Islamic militant Web forums said the entire video would be posted soon on the Internet. Such advertisements in the past have come a day or two before the video appears on the Web.

    Thursday's was the fourth in a series of long videos that al-Qaida has put out to memorialize the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center, said Ben Venzke, head of IntelCenter, a private U.S. company that monitors militant message traffic and provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

    The previous ones were issued in April and September 2002 and September 2003, each showing video from the planning of the suicide hijackings and farewell statements from some of the hijackers, Venzke said.

    In the latest video, bin Laden is shown sitting outside with his former lieutenant Mohammed Atef and Ramzi Binalshibh, another suspected planner of the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Venzke said the scenes had not been previously broadcast.

    Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, was killed by a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in 2001. Binalshibh was captured four years ago in Pakistan and is in U.S. custody. President Bush announced plans to put him on military trial.

    The video shows bin Laden in a dark robe and white headgear, strolling through the camp and greeting dozens of followers, some masked, and many carrying automatic weapons. A voice-over narration praises the fighters and refers to the camp being "on the soil of Kandahar" -- a city in southern Afghanistan.

    The footage shows scenes of training at the camp. Masked militants perform martial-arts kicks or learn how to break the hold of someone who grabs them from behind. Several militants are shown practicing with fold-out knives.

    Venzke said the footage was part of a video he expected would be more than an hour long, based on previous releases.

    He said the full version of the video was believed to include a message from Azzam al-Amriki, the nom de guerre of Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American who the FBI says has associated with al-Qaida. Gadahn appeared in an al-Qaida video released last week, in which he called on Americans to convert to Islam.

    The full video also likely includes messages from bin Laden or his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, though they may not be new, Venzke said, without elaborating on why he believed that.

    "They produce long videos like these not just for 9/11, but for any significant events they feel warrant their attention," Venzke said.

    One aim is to boost recruitment, but such videos have other purposes -- "to speak to their supporters, to raise morale within their own group, to facilitate fundraising, and to serve as a psychological attack," he said.

    The footage also shows glimpses of daily life in the camp, with men chopping wood and cutting up vegetables for dinner.

    Al-Shehri and al-Ghamdi are each shown speaking to the camera, their images superimposed over pictures of the crumbling World Trade Center towers and the burning Pentagon, as well as a model of a passenger jet.

    They both say Muslims must stand up and fight the West.

    "If jihad now is not an obligation (on Muslims), when will it be?" said al-Shehri, pointing to attacks on Muslims in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Chechnya.

    "If we are content with being humiliated and inclined to comfort, the tooth of the enemy will stretch from Jerusalem to Mecca, and then everyone will regret on a day when regret is of no use," al-Ghamdi said.



    © Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

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    Thursday's was the fourth in a series of long videos that al-Qaida has put out to memorialize the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center, said Ben Venzke, head of IntelCenter, a private U.S. company that monitors militant message traffic and provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

    The previous ones were issued in April and September 2002 and September 2003, each showing video from the planning of the suicide hijackings and farewell statements from some of the hijackers, Venzke said.
    GS, I wonder, how much is the USA is paying your peace loving Muslims to stand up and be part of this Great Government Conspiracy ? 50 camels,100.

    Why would any decent human being (regardless of their faith) be part of this big lie ? :dance:

    It's still not to late...:thumbsup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjohn420

    but on a serious note... if the saudi's "did" orcastrate the 9/11 disaster...
    NOw your talking..... The saudis say they did it.. why cant you believe it?

    ps..btw bush was in sunny fla. with some elementry kids reading a book when 9/11 happened and didnt do shit...... (anyone seen farenhight(sp?) 9/11)
    What was he going to jump up and scare the kids.. you are just a Bush- America Hater...........You are slanted to start.....

    Fuck Mickey moore...... you are brain washed... you were not smart enough when you started to see those movies and now you are brain washed....

    RON, get some deprograming..... listen to Michael Savage every night, go to the BiG Man every Day, and you might be ok..... If not?

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    yeah bong.. jsut keep kissing bush's ass..
    you probably go to boheiman grove and worship "molech" with them

    and his name is michael moore you dipshit

    "you were not smart enough when you started to see those movies"
    i was 21 you fucking idiot

    get real and just believe that bush is sippin some mighty fine cognac right now and he thanking you for it everytime you pay 3.00 a gallon for gas

    btw gas companies made 37 BILLION dollars in profilts last year "post katrina"

    lets wake up now mr. bong

    ps.. cute avitar..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozarks
    I guess you didn't see the news today GS, your peaceful Muslims released a video tape today (from 2000 I believe) showing OBL (the one that didn't finance 911) meeting with some of the hijackers (that weren't there on the planes on 911) all having a real "murdering Muslim" love fest. The hijackers were saying how happy they were to be killing themselves, in the name of their God. (and murdering us Americans)

    You should turn on the TV once in a while see whats happening in the real world.

    In other words, those "murdering Muslims" you so mindlessly defend were on video tape on TV, world wide, saying they were responsible for 911 and proud of it.

    It must be frustrating, very time you regurgitate this delusional nonsense reality "pops up" slaps you right in the head.

    It's still not to late to pick up the yellow pages, look under "mental health services" and get some help.:thumbsup:
    No....your lovley fascist Amerikan pig infidel government released those videos. It's a magic word called...

    [align=center]PROPAGANDA![/align]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjohn420
    yeah bong.. jsut keep kissing bush's ass..
    you probably go to boheiman grove and worship "molech" with them

    and his name is michael moore you dipshit

    "you were not smart enough when you started to see those movies"
    i was 21 you fucking idiot

    get real and just believe that bush is sippin some mighty fine cognac right now and he thanking you for it everytime you pay 3.00 a gallon for gas

    btw gas companies made 37 BILLION dollars in profilts last year "post katrina"

    lets wake up now mr. bong

    ps.. cute avitar..lol
    There is no point arguing with Bong. This person is convinced that 9/11 actually happened by "freedom hating" Muslims who had boxcutters and flew those planes into the buildings. Such propaganda, just like how the Nazis blamed the communists for the Reichstag Fire.

    There are those who know the truth. It's unfortunate that there are only a few who do.

    Nickelodeon's new animated series for Fascist Amerika........"AHHH!! REAL MUSLIMS!!!" lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Spirit
    There is no point arguing with Bong. This person is convinced that 9/11 actually happened by "freedom hating" Muslims who had boxcutters and flew those planes into the buildings. Such propaganda, just like how the Nazis blamed the communists for the Reichstag Fire.

    There are those who know the truth. It's unfortunate that there are only a few who do.

    Nickelodeon's new animated series for Fascist Amerika........"AHHH!! REAL MUSLIMS!!!" lol.
    so sad ya know.....

    well i guess hitler and bush do have things in common, they're both facist lieing assholes.......

    now im off to bed:thumbsup:

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    #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Spirit
    No....your lovley fascist Amerikan pig infidel government released those videos. It's a magic word called...

    [align=center]PROPAGANDA![/align]
    You remind me of the old joke: "who ya going to believe me, or your lying eyes"

    Your hero's play you like a drum, then they get on world wide TV and say everything you preach is a lie, and wrong. you are being taken for a ride.

    I want you to google "useful idiots" after reading, look into the mirror and tell me what you see ?


    It's still not to late to look in the "yellow pages" under "mental health services" and get some help :thumbsup:

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