The current state of hip hop

[SpiritLevel]

This is the crux of the issue. Hip hop and rap have always been about one thing, responding to the masses. The songs that are getting the most air play now are what the primary listeners want to hear and what's important to them...materialistic BS. For rap and hip hop to change, the culture that listens to the music has to change.

Hip Hop & Rap wasn't just responding to the masses, it was more of a direction for the masses too. Public Enemy: Don't Believe The Hype... People followed the music not the music followed the people, gee or was it bi-directional? Old skool Hip Hip & Rap is like soul music with spice, even down to many of the beats. Today Hip Hop is responding to the masses in a way that indicates the masses don't know what the hell they want so rappers try and sell an album any which way they can. Sex sells so thas a start! Listeners of legal radio broadcasts listen to what sells and what has been sold, and thas as far as their control extends. The diameter of their listening experience equates to what has been sold in particular record shops. The availabe artists in mainstream record outlets are restricted by the music industry on the whole. You can guarantee that by design, bull shit will be all over the mainstream charts because the restrictions apply before an artist is even signed to a label. The stuff that some of us listen to which we think is important to us is utter crap. If a materialistic lifestyle is what many desire, and musical artists are playing up to peoples desires and advertising it in their music, then like a vicious circle the culture of the listener will not change until they read this thread.

:thumbsup: BabyFacedAbortion, ronjohn420 , 4gan2ja0,

SpiritLevel Reviewed by SpiritLevel on 09-07-2006. The current state of hip hop i am writing this because i am concerned witht the current state of hip hop, that is: garbage, absolute trash, i dont even litsen to the radio anymore, hip hop, well mainstream rap, is absolute crap now, the top songs rap about "shoulder leans" and "snap your fingers" and "its goin down", how pathetic is it that these idiotic no lyrical talent no flow no content rappers can make millions of dollars? how pathetic is it that these same recycled generic beats are used in every song? it just sucks Rating: 5

[Abattoir Dream]

hey i am with you in that the REAL mainstran crap - i mean rap is just a bunch of retarded people throwin stupid meaningless lyrics on a stupid meaningless beat, -(at least thats wot it sed to me) but u gotta hav alotta respect for those who you may class as mainstream rappers that have been in it for a long time like eminem that seem to have been forgotten about, it doesnt matter what you say, eminem is a man of many talents, a genius even, and i listen to his music as much as i do tupac or dre, a few of the newer rappers are really goin far with it now, - eg obie trice, D12 and i for one congragulate their success - ps i dont hav a clu wot i jus writ, n really cant be bothered to read it agen so, understand wot u can

[Abattoir Dream]

hey, for all the american hip hop fans, you SERIOUSLY have to download or buy a ROOTS MANUVA cd, he is a ledgend, no shittin, the british tupac but just not as wild - im tellin you, buy it,

[FUNKNUGGET]

I live in California (Bay Area) and we have got some awesome underground

Andre Nickatina
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
Keak Da Sneak
Federation
Mistah Fab


listen to any of these you wont be disappointed

[Bejagins]

yea no shit... "snap ya fingers ... you can do it all by your self...." thats pretty fucking bad. I was inlove with rap when snoop was in his peak... but since then its been pretty shitty

[BigHyphyD]

I live in California (Bay Area) and we have got some awesome underground

Andre Nickatina
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
Keak Da Sneak
Federation
Mistah Fab


listen to any of these you wont be disappointed

Yup 916 here so I'm down with all that shit.

Some people may not like this type of music, mainly because it's just about driving, and thizzin, and going dumb, but I don't care.


When I get high, I LOVE turnin on some Federation and GOIN DUMB!!!!


:dance:

[suhl]

[attachment=o86501]

...

[RedLocks]

I think part of the problem with hip hop these days is, so many artists are just complete morons. The shit out there now has one point and one point only, destroy the minds of the youth and make them the next dumb ass wannabe MC flowing on about the ice on his wrist. Give me some more Nas, Mos Def, Cypher Complete , ya know the lyricists.. not the iceonthewristisists and that will keep me happy with what I consider hip-hop. I got pleanty of concoisness dancehall and roots reggae artistes that will keep on releasing something new month after month year after year, and it will be good shit every time

-bless

[SpiritLevel]

I been listening to immortal techique lots recently while driving. Good shyt! I watched a 3 hour documentary with this dude talking about lots of shyt. It was good shyt tho

[suhl]

i dont really give a shit about the lyrics in rap music because the real lyricists are out making real music. some rappers can write some songs but there are far better lyricists in pretty much every genre of music. i just love listening to them talk about doing drugs and fucking them hoes after getting them high. i just laugh my ass off when i hear it and think holy shit these guys got some girls high fucked them then got high themselves then wrote a song about it and millions of people gave them money to hear it. you hafta love it
and good rap lyrics pretty much only talk about the state of inner city living and shit like that there really isnt a broad range that im aware of