The current state of hip hop

[Matt the Funk]

Oh and even though Atmosphere isn't really underground anymore at all, Sean Daley and Ant are the DOPEST.

[suhl]

calling icp the kings of rap is like calling weird al the king of rock, except dumber

[MacWQ33]

I think it's definitely getting better especially with like everyone dropping this 4th quarter. We got Jay, Snoop, Game, Method Man, Lloyd Banks, Luda all coming out within the last few months...which is definitely a good thing....maybe finally taking the eyes off that shitty southern "music".

Then after all said and done, we got (in my eyes)...the most anticipated return/album of the year coming out in a little over a week......NAS....dropping his tenatively titled album...."Hip Hop Is Dead"...and now with Eminem coming back possibly next year (and DRE's album), hip hop is being 'brought back to life'.

And if you think the 'underground' rules all...you just gotta realize although some underground rappers are good, obviously they can't even be compared with most of these guys who have already made it. Actually I think most of these guys suck anyway, but people just like them, because they haven't 'sold out' or what not. With the exception of a FEW, the rest all suck balls at rapping and/or making songs.

[K_Shootz_Den]

I think it's definitely getting better especially with like everyone dropping this 4th quarter. We got Jay, Snoop, Game, Method Man, Lloyd Banks, Luda all coming out within the last few months...which is definitely a good thing....maybe finally taking the eyes off that shitty southern "music".

Then after all said and done, we got (in my eyes)...the most anticipated return/album of the year coming out in a little over a week......NAS....dropping his tenatively titled album...."Hip Hop Is Dead"...and now with Eminem coming back possibly next year (and DRE's album), hip hop is being 'brought back to life'.

And if you think the 'underground' rules all...you just gotta realize although some underground rappers are good, obviously they can't even be compared with most of these guys who have already made it. Actually I think most of these guys suck anyway, but people just like them, because they haven't 'sold out' or what not. With the exception of a FEW, the rest all suck balls at rapping and/or making songs.

I wholeheartedly disagree, people don't just listen to underground rap because the artists have yet to "sell out". People listen to underground because it is so broad and diverse and so in a way, you choose your own music, as opposed to having to listen the set few mainstream songs that have been determined as "Good Music". Although we are all speaking of a common genre when we say hip-hop or rap, we all have a taste within that genre, and mainstream will usually not have that, and so you go to underground rap and find artists that APPEAL to that taste. The "popular" sub-genres are always changing, and at the moment I believe is the worst most unintelligent sub-genre. I blame this on lil jon and the eastside faggots

[MacWQ33]

Yeah I agree, I hate that Lil Jon and all that southern shit too ...trust me lol. I am talking about the current state of 'known' hip-hop...not necessary mainstream or popular. (Nas is known...but he doesn't have the biggest 'hits' in the world, although he's one of the best all time.)

Some underground is good obviously, but I am more of a 'known' hip-hop guy. I don't know how else to say it....it's like College BBall vs. NBA...I happen to like the NBA...lol.

[MastaChronic]

calling icp the kings of rap is like calling weird al the king of rock, except dumber

im not calling them the kings of rap, im calling them the kings of the underground rap. and yes, they are underground. they recieve no mtv airtime at all, except for one time and they fought tooth and nail to get it there during primetime and then mtv moved it to super late night. hardly any stores sell their cd's and when was the last time you heard any of their concerts advertised on any channel? you have to dig through the internet to find their concerts.

[suhl]

i dont really care if they are underground or not they are a joke and i have not met one person who owned one of their cds who wasnt a complete tool. i havent met you so i am not calling you one, not breaking the forum rules

[MastaChronic]

please define "tool"
do you mean someone that buys all of their shirts and hats and pants and underwear and posters and sunglasses and chains and such?
if thats what you mean then im no tool, i have one twiztid shirt and thats it.

[budsmoker only]

you all need 2 listen 2 bone thugs n harmony

100% agree with this, they are real, very talented and just great to listen to, and there is still good hip hop around.. all your talkin about is the shit thats on mtv day after day, the shit that your hearin is because stupid motherfuckers listen to that shit and it sells so they go for it.. 50 cent has some talent, you guys are just pissed that he went so huge.. and also, check out the new bone thugs album coming soon.. its gonna be the shit..

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