future telling dreams

[zero2104]

okay, like a couple of days ago i had a dream were me and my freind got caught with weed and shit,

and yesterday me and my friend got caught at school high and we got in trouble

u guys beleive in dreams telling future? or is it a coincidence?

zero2104 Reviewed by zero2104 on 09-02-2006. future telling dreams okay, like a couple of days ago i had a dream were me and my freind got caught with weed and shit, and yesterday me and my friend got caught at school high and we got in trouble u guys beleive in dreams telling future? or is it a coincidence? Rating: 5

[Hamlet]

You have anxiety about getting caught with weed and shit because it's a strong possibility you could get caught with weed and shit; so..you dream about getting caught with weed and shit. It's no great miracle that soon you get caught with weed and shit!

If you really can dream the future though, I have a few stocks for you to dream some closing prices for me. We'll get really rich! I think dreams are emotional, not rational. ...brainvomit.

[Oneironaut]

Sorry, but the idea of getting information about the future violates Einsteinian relativity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone
Seeing how well-proven the theory of relativity is, it's going to take some extraordinary evidence to convince me that you can get information from the future.

There are many materialistic explanations for how you could have a dream about something and have it happen to you shortly thereafter. First of all it could just be pure coincidence. Or, as Hamlet suggested, it could be that you had some pre-existing anxiety about getting caught which caused both the dream and the incident. Or perhaps the dream caused you to become anxious about it, which made it more likely to happen.

In any case, it seems highly unlikely that dreams would be a way to learn about the future. How do you know what dreams are going to happen and which ones aren't? Clearly the vast majority of dreams do not have anything to say about the future. Last week I had a dream that I had sex with Queen Isabela of fifteenth-century Spain at work. I don't anticipate that happening anytime soon. I also had a dream that I was on board a futuristic spaceship and had sex with the future space girls. Doesn't seem very likely.

What would be surprising is if people never dreamed about events that would come up in the future. With billions of people having several dreams every night, through sheer chance there will be a lot of dreams that eerily correlate with events that happen in the dreamer's future. Especially if there is something in the dreamer's mind which might be able to predict that such an event is likely, or if the dreamer is inspired by the dream to do things which cause the event to happen (i.e. a self-fulfilling prophecy).

[Oneironaut]

One of my friends told me about this dream he had, where he remembers thinking in the dream "if I see this again, then I will know I have seen the future." A few months later, he saw the exact same situation he had seen in his dream.

Wow, I am totally convinced. Thank you for providing the irrefutable concrete evidence that Einsteinian relativity is incorrect, that information can actually travel backwards in time, and that our dreams can predict the future through some mysterious unknown force. I guess I really will screw Queen Isabela at work.

Seriously though, do you just believe every crazy idea you're told? Because if you mail me $500 I can give you superpowers.

[Hamlet]

"occasionly i have dreams just about little obscure things that make no sense at all then a couple days later it will happen but theres no significance to the situation at all like no anxiety about it becasue the situation means nothing"

I've never had a dream like that, but I have had amazing bits of syncronicity. I suppose they are just coincidence but sometimes they're enough to make you wonder. Like an example I read where a guy is driving down the road and the radio is playing that old jim croche song 'Meaner than a Junkyard Dog". (just a verse in it) He goes around the corner and there's a junkyard with 'home of the junkyard dog' on the sign. Then he drives home and there's a scroungy old pitbull in my yard. "Okay, the theme for today is junkyard dogs? What's up with that?"
Or I'm thinking about a quote by Spock from an old Star Trek episode. I turn on the TV and there's that episode playing right at the place where Spock is delivering that quote. I do it all the time with the radio. Singing a song in my head, kick on the radio and that's what is playing.

Then again, there's never any meaning I can associate to them. No significance behind it like rikkitikki said. It is funny though that they seem to come in groups at certain times. I always wondered if Jung was on to something with his syncronicity theories. I've always meant to study some of his work but he talks over my head in what little I've read.

Still, probably just statistical coincidence, but it's one of the very few things in the realm of the almost mystical that I've actually seen for myself, and can puzzle over without having to buy into some far out story from a very questionable source.

[FunkyMonkey]

Premonition dreams are real.
I have experienced and experimented with them since I was a small child. I know them to be true. I do not rely on anyones theory to affirm or disprove things when I have my own experiences to prove it for me.
My experiments involved specifics and other peole to verify them, journalling and other tools. I concluded long ago that they are part of my reality.
Do not doubt someone elses truth based on your own expeiences or the lack of understanding of others, or einsteins theories.
Oneironaut is intelligent and insightful but can be an arrogant ass at times, he is the first to admit it.
Dont let his position and comments sway you from exploring this more.


peace.

[Hamlet]

"Do not doubt someone elses truth based on your own expeiences or the lack of understanding of others, or einsteins theories."

You were doing great until you got to that sentence. Always doubt someone else's truth. Doubt everything! There are people out there who will bullshit you until your ears fall off if you're gullible enough. Experience and wisdom will usually tell you the difference between good info. and bad. Swallow the wrong line of bullshit and the next thing you know you're drinking Hale Bopp Koolade.

I'm very skeptical about prophetic dreams. Not because of Einstein but because I've never had one myself and because I've never known one person to say 'wow, I dreamed I'm going to win the lottery tomorrow' etc. and have it happen.

I have, personally, experienced a couple of things such as the syncronicities mentioned earlier, that I'm going to leave the verdict out on...just because I've seen it with my own eyes. Even so, I'm still willing to consider the most rational explanation and accept the truth, even if it robs it of all it's fun and mystery. That goes both ways too though. If someone were able to nail down prophesy after prophesy, or demonstrate supernormal abilities to my satisfaction, I would be perfectly willing to change my position. It all comes down to my personal experience...but I'm willing to scrutinize my personal experience and question myself. The last person I want to bullshit is myself.

[FAllout]

Ive had that happen.

Dream slike that feel difrent thats how I tell wich ones will happen in real life.
It only happned a few times and was pretty mundane stuff but it was things I could not see coming in every day life.

[FunkyMonkey]

"Do not doubt someone elses truth based on your own expeiences or the lack of understanding of others, or einsteins theories."

You were doing great until you got to that sentence. Always doubt someone else's truth. Doubt everything! There are people out there who will bullshit you until your ears fall off if you're gullible enough. .....

I think you misunderstood what I meant by that quote.
What I was saying was that you cannot impose your beliefs upon someone else based upon your own experiences.
Just because you may not have experienced something does not mean that nobody else has experienced it either and that it is unreal.
If someone has an experience and tells me about it I do not filter it through my own experiences and discount it as false if I have not had a similar one myself.
If we toss away everything new that is presented to us we would never learn a damn thing. We would still all be shitting our pants and crying for mommies breast.
Seriously, what is the point of conversation if we immediately assume everyone is full of lies and trying to take advantage of us in some way?

peace.

[Oneironaut]

I'm not imposing my beliefs on you, I'm just expressing my beliefs. And my belief is that belief in the supernatural is not warranted without overwhelming evidence, which I have not seen. Therefore my hunch is that you are either delusional, misguided, or misinformed, and have not really seen the future.

I have heard many professional psychics who predict major world events to happen, which without exception occur with a low rate of success, except for obvious things anybody could have guessed (I predict turmoil in the Middle East, and hurricanes in the Caribbean...), and yet millions of people believe these psychics are legit! I don't know what drives psychics to predict these kinds of things that turn out to not happen. Maybe they're deliberately lying, maybe they really think they can envision the future, but whatever is going on, there is no real solid evidence that anybody has the power to forsee the future.

It violates the known laws of physics, and like it or not, our universe is governed by the laws of physics. There's no way you can go faster than the speed of light, no way you can fly by flapping your arms, and no way you can fortell the future. I think we should all just accept it and move onto things that have to do with reality.