good buzz here dont ye think? well the pots are 10 inch just transplanted that day although i you are right i reckon i should prop up more from under neath within the pot for the purpose of oscillating around the lower stem.... jez they have grown since I took last picts I will update photos on this friday night........also the feadog is not for the purpose of support rather for scale ...oh ya also I just gve them first feed that day and tis slow release so i dont know where I stand yet with nitrogen deficiency yet. cheers to deadfrog, kongo,budbuster and dubstar