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08-28-2006, 11:34 AM #6
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American Fascism on the US Quarter
I have a problem with the concept of capitalism, but I at least have some ideas on what we might have instead and how we might work to bring about a better society. I don't really think Great Spirit is very much of an anti-capitalist. I think he got fed up with the system, which is understandable, but instead of looking at the problem with logic and reason he got suckered into the paranoid fantasies of some deluded theorists (like David Icke, it seems...) who think ousting the current administration will somehow solve all the problems our society faces.
Originally Posted by Nylo
I am a staunch opponent of capitalism and fascism, but I can at least see the difference between a bourgeois republic and fascist totalitarianism, and why it is very much preferable to live in the former. That doesn't mean the United States government is perfect or even defensible. It still commits atrocious crimes and robs the people of their liberty every day, but it's nowhere near as bad as Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan.
I do too. I don't think anybody should be exerting "power" over anybody else, except when absolutely necessary for self-defense or the defense of others from violence or exploitation. I think society can and should make its decisions in an egalitarian democratic manner, where there is nobody on top telling everybody below them what to do. There's nothing wrong with hating the concept of power.Great Spirit hates the concept of power.
But I think that's totally irrelevant, as I'm sure Great Spirit isn't completely opposed to hierarchy and authority. I bet if some paranoid kooks got into power, made Islam and 9/11 "Truth" the national religions, and started spouting the same kind of gibberish he does, he'd be right behind them. Something makes me think that Great Spirit, for whatever reason, needs to hold ideals diametrically opposed to what people around him think. He doesn't bother looking objectively at the evidence for his beliefs; if it sounds "rebellious" and "cool" enough, he'll take it hook, line and sinker. Some guy says Bush is a reptilian alien from outer space, 9/11 was a big plot by the government to dupe the country into war, or the American eagle is the same kind of bird as the Nazi eagle because both governments are fascist, and he'll soak it up like a sponge.
Real anti-capitalists, for the most part, don't think that way. We hold dearly to the concepts of materialism and rationality; looking at the world for what it is and looking at the practical solutions for the problems we find ourselves in. If you started spouting such paranoid nonsense at RevLeft or some other communist message board, chances are you'd just be laughed at.
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