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08-27-2006, 11:58 PM #1OPSenior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
By Robert Roy Britt
LiveScience Managing Editor
posted: 13 March 2006
04:01 pm ET
If you can't remember the headline of this article or are already struggling to recall some of the words at the beginning of the story, try hard to recall how much pot you smoked in your youth.
A new study finds those who've used a lot of marijuana have worse memories and don't think as quickly.
It's not the first study to suggest pot hurts memory, but the findings are stark.
In one memory test, long-time uses remembered seven of 15 words, on average. Non-users remembered 12 of 15. On a decision-making test, those who had rarely smoked pot had impaired performance 8 percent of time, while long-term tokers had 70 percent impairment.
The results are detailed in the March 14 issue of the journal Neurology.
The study involved 64 people age 17 to 49 selected from a larger study group. They were split into three groups: those who had smoked four or more joints per week for more than 10 years; those who'd been smoking for five to 10 years; and those who had smoked at least once but not more than 20 times and not at all in the past two years.
The middle group consistently scored in between the other two.
"We found that the longer people used marijuana, the more deterioration they had in these cognitive abilities, especially in the ability to learn and remember new information," said Lambros Messinis of the Department of Neurology at the University Hospital of Patras in Patras, Greece.
A separate study in Neurology last year found higher blood flow velocity in the marijuana users even a month after they stopped smoking. Researchers said the change could help explain other studies that have revealed memory problems in pot smokers.
A Harvard Medical School study in 2003 found lasting memory impairment in people who had started smoking marijuana before age 17, when the brain is still forming.
And research published in November indicated that heavy marijuana use might put adolescents who are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia at greater risk of developing the brain disorder.
Some 3.1 million Americans age 12 and older use marijuana daily or almost daily, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse. In 2004, 5.6 percent of 12th graders reported daily use of marijuana.
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiol...pot_brain.html
I'm not sure if this was posted back in March or not, but in any case I'll ask; What are all your takes on these findings? Personally, I think it's within the realm of possibility but on the other hand they don't add up to my own personal experiences -- as if this is more government propaganda fueled by shoddy, biased research. And if it does harm the mind then I choose this less self-destructive indulgence as opposed to a drunkards vice of alcohol.
Sure, while I'm high I have an inability to process every little thing I hear, but the same can't be said for when I haven't smoked in a few days and I'm completely of sound mind.Kush Over Reviewed by Kush Over on . Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory By Robert Roy Britt LiveScience Managing Editor posted: 13 March 2006 04:01 pm ET If you can't remember the headline of this article or are already struggling to recall some of the words at the beginning of the story, try hard to recall how much pot you smoked in your youth. A new study finds those who've used a lot of marijuana have worse memories and don't think as quickly. Rating: 5
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08-28-2006, 02:21 AM #2Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
I've never really gotten behind the belief that cannabis can cause these latent psychological disorders to pop up. On the contrary, I started after being "diagnosed" by some quack. Gave up talking to him after a few goes, started toking cannabis therapeutically... really helped. After a while I was feeling alright with less and less usage, so I stopped for a while. I think a lot of it depends how you consume it. If you're taking massive hits from dirty pipes, thick papers, etc... then you will obviously be consuming more carbon monoxide (doesn't it kill brain cells... sort of like holding your breathe too long... ? I can't call that one for sure). Anyways, I would say that it's probably just another anti-study. If even a study, and not just a story.
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08-28-2006, 02:54 AM #3Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
Here's an example of how much credibility you can put into studies that start out with the intention of proving something.
http://throwawayyourtv.com/2006/05/s...-bullshit.html
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08-28-2006, 03:04 AM #4Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
Eh, no big deal to me. I've always wanted to forget things more often than remember them. Makes avoiding emotional discomfort much easier...
and as for descision impairment... I think that might be complete opinion. Good descisions are relative.
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08-28-2006, 03:41 AM #5Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
that is all bs, cannabis has been not only been proven to not kill brain cells, but it has been proven to repair the damaged ones!
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08-28-2006, 07:44 AM #6Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
The only time i forget certain events is when I try to recall events when I was high.
If you're perma-high all the time it's a continuous string of short-term memory loss; so it's only natural you're going to have some trouble remembering things.
Don't overdo it and you'll be fine.
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08-28-2006, 08:15 AM #7Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
I won't deny that pot has affected my memory, but at the same time I don't blame the herb for it. There was a point in my life where I wanted to forget everything... I really just didn't give a fuck about remembering anything, and like Inferious mentioned it had a lot to do with emotional crap. So I smoked a shitload of pot and let myself forget a lot of stuff. Not my brightest hour, and I do regret having lost a lot of memories when I let them go. But I think it was a concious choice, and smoking just made it much easier. If you smoke in moderation and after your brain is fully developed (after puberty) I don't think there's much to worry about... just don't expect your short term memory to be fantastic while you're high.
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08-28-2006, 05:30 PM #8Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
Originally Posted by Inferius
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08-29-2006, 04:57 AM #9Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
Sounds fishy to me
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08-29-2006, 09:29 AM #10Senior Member
Up in Smoke: Marijuana Toasts Memory
I saw this thread and thought it was information proving marijuana dosent damage memory. Now I'm crushed, I just read the post and I really want to believe its propaganda
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