Are all girls just fake

[IanCurtisWishlist]

i would be happy if all girls stopped wearing makeup. makeup is a bunch of bullshit, it's just consumerism. it's like marilyn manson once said in Bowling for Columbine, "buy the acne medicine or the girl won't fuck you"... same thing applies to women and makeup... you gotta have makeup or guys won't notice you. it's a fucked up mentality. and personally i feel this idea of the perfect woman makes girls live up to standards which are by no means "normal" or healthy for that matter. women are expected to be perfect models for their men. in a sense i feel bad for them and on the other hand i feel disgust. i guess i'm somewhat of a femenist by nature.

ladies , throw away your makeup and show us your natural beauty.

[Ammie]

make up can be fun, but it has to be tasteful.
If u look way different with make up then u do with out u are obvisouly wearing to much.
its all about the natural look.
atleast thats what i like but hey, to each is own right

[Kryzco]

good post ammie

for me make up should be used to accentuate your best features

not for false advertising and looking like a cheap hooker

[SpiritLevel]

mainly @ Azalea Bloomfield. The question raised in the title of the thread is 'Are all girls just fake?'. Cannabis Campbell gave a few examples of what can be percieved to be the actions of faking ones appearance. It just so happens that makeup was the baton that many picked up and ran with. No one has really touched on anything else that compliments how one can be perceived as fake. There are lots of additives that can be compounded into this topic.

Freedom of Self Expression differs some what from Fakin It. Freedom to express oneself through wearing makeup puts a thin line between Freedom and Fakeness. To express freely would be to not give a rats ass about what the next person's perception would be. Getting dolled up to look sexually attractive means that the individual is totally caught up on how other people see them. Leaving the house, on the other hand, looking like a tramp *cough* means that the individual has prioritised their appearance behind something else. hummmm. But looking unkempt could also be fake as some women do get fed up of attention (or at least they say they do while thrusting their titties in my face) because they are so naturally beautiful.

So, Azalea Bloomfield's statement reading '..I think there's a difference in 'alterations' to one's physicality based on 'intention' as well..' Is right on point. Unless we know one's intention, we cannot simply deduce whether they are fake of freely expressing their self. If one has an intention then it is premeditated and decided that one will do that to achieve this; so thats like doing something on purpose to achieve particular results as oppose to doing nothing and not expect anything. I suppose their actions and body language, while wearing The Mask, confirms factors that stray into area of psychology and subjects like that. Gee the media has done a lot to confuse the deduction of whether or not someone is naturally doing something or if they are guided.....?!%^%$"

[Davidj56]

I think girls with makeup.. Or 2 Much makeup look like clowns

[deftdrummer]

Girls are different. their brains work differently. they are naturally wired to value social relationships, and that was seems to drive them. They spend a lot of time and effort to feel accepted. A lot of girls are the same, but that's not to say they all are. I have met wonderfully open-minded intellectual girls. But sadly these characteristics rarely come along with beauty.

MANSHOWBOY hit the nail on the head! there is the arguement that it is hardwired in the sexes. ie: males have the ego, while females are attracted to this ego sometimes subconsciously. Think of it like a natural balance between the sexes.

[Azalea Bloomfield]

Hi All, and SpiritLevel thanks for catching me up on the foundations of the discussion.

Regarding this idea introduced by SpiritLevel:
>But looking unkempt could also be fake as some women do get fed up of attention (or at least they say they do while thrusting their titties in my face) because they are so naturally beautiful.

I just find that SO funny...perhaps someone could assist these poor, desirable women that suffer through so much bothersome attention...Give them solace by letting them know that in our particular youth-oriented culture of the good 'ol USA, they will be considered 'over the hill' soon enough. In about the time it takes to turn the toxin from the bacteria and spores of the Clostridium Botulinum strain into a nifty syringe full of Botox, they will be rescued, so to speak, from all that pesky attention :thumbsup: Even that great rack will only defy gravity for so long...so fear not troubled 'hotties'! That just strikes me as so funny, picturing what you said...

deftdrummer, hi!, is there anyway you could rephrase what you posted so I could understand what you mean? I wanna get it, but the 'balance of the sexes' due to the 'strangely' attractive male "ego"...? Help me to comprehend you, I've been known to be dense on occassion.

And since I'm feeling chatty...It is difficult to know how much we've been influenced by the ubiquitous media SpiritLevel. Even with concerted efforts to remain authentic and rooted in what is real (which I realize is subjective, reality I mean), everything get's co-opted eventually it seems like. Has anyone brought up breast implants? If a woman gets them for her carreer, lets say, is she fake, or a savvy business woman? Or both?

This comedian has a great line where he asked a female friend of his why she had gotten breat implants and he mimicks her saying "well they're bigger now, and look how bouncy they are, and the men LOVE them, they love the bigger breasts!" And he says, "well men love beer too, so why don't you have a tap installed on your forehead?" It was funnier when I heard him say it, but it's a good point, I think. For whom do we do the things that we do? And to what end? I'm far too restless...I could either go and walk it off, or...:smokin: just roll and chill. Warm Regards, Azalea

And my standard disclaimer: My sisters have my support in doing WHATEVER they choose to do, regardless, as long as they are not hurting another. A.

[Azalea Bloomfield]

I was just thinking that people that are really honest about what's fake about themselves can make the 'fake' just another part of what is endearing about them, like Pamela Anderson...I don't know her, but she seems to be a kind-hearted, charitable person, a vegan, a seemingly righteous babe...and honestly fake. :smokin:

[SpiritLevel]

Maybe Pams kind heart, charity and vegan diet would mean NOTHING to the world had it not been for those baywatch implants and well maintained barbie doll appearance. (I am those three things but the world don't see it, I bet if I was a male Pam the world would) Had she been a bit of an overweight, flat chested moose would the media feel that she was worthy of having stories published about her?

I didn't know she was any of those three things until you said it, but I did know she got big titties and a slim build. She's sold herself wrong IMO cuz most people will only recall the physical attributes of her existence as oppose to what she stands for. She could come to me for a job within the vegan society and I'd just be conditioned to think she is obsessed with her appearance. I'd probly already have a preconceived decission in my head as to whether or not I want her on board and if I were a 2 dimensional thinker my analysis of her persona wouldn't go further than looking at her tits and imagining her lips round my cock.. Some managers do attempt employ women on this basis alone!
I gotta take a break, last sentence has thrown me somewhat........

[Markass]

Personally, I mostly try to find the ladies that don't wear makeup...you know what they're always going to look like, and if they look fine without makeup, then why would they need to wear it? Woot. I donno..