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08-27-2006, 03:19 PM #1Senior Member
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
I see, so you're in favor of eradicating democracy (government of any kind, actually) but you don't know what to replace it with, other than some utopian dream of subsistence farming or something. Well, yeah, not many people are gonna go for something like that. People like their iPods, internet, computer games, electricity, space programs, advanced healthcare, ability to traverse the globe, cruises, television, cameras, microwaves, refrigerators, and so on. Can people live without any of that? Of course. Does it suck? Yes it does.
If you've never 'lived off the land' for an extended period of time, then you don't really know what it's like. I've lived in pretty neolithic conditions for about eight months, and it ain't no picnic. It's not the big things you miss initially, because you know you aren't gonna have those. What gets really annoying is missing the little things, like toilet paper, mosquito repellant, lighters, cold drinks, anything to read, music, shampoo, toothpaste, warm water, waterproof storage, razors, antibiotics, aspirin, that kind of stuff.
People who live without the perks of modern society die much younger. Like, in their 30s or 40s. One bad infection, kiss a leg or an arm goodbye, if you survive at all. Even if it didn't suck to live in such conditions, I personally believe the human race can accomplish more than breeding one vulnerable planet full of subsistence farmers, but to do so requires government of some form.
Another problem, and it's a huge one, with no government, is that people need law and order, or it they quickly sink into anarchy. You establish a nice peaceful cooperative subsistence farming village next to some stream with fish and fresh water. A neighboring village downstream decides they don't like your feces washing down the stream into 'their' area, so they attack with the goal of enslaving your villagers and taking control of that area. What then? He who has the biggest guns wins. Yeah, that's a real step up from what we have now. In fact, there already are such lawless areas, where government has little or no control. Iraq, for starters, some countries in Africa, Somalia, and so on. If that's REALLY what you want, it is available right now. You'd probably end up missing government protection when gangs of thugs arrive in the night and blow you away with machine guns, but hey, you'd be free of government. Dead, too.
You are an idealist with no ideas.jamstigator Reviewed by jamstigator on . Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment TEHRAN, Iran Aug 21, 2006 (AP)â?? Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Monday that Tehran will continue to pursue nuclear technology, despite a U.N. Security Council deadline to suspend uranium enrichment by the end of the month or face the threat of economic and diplomatic sanctions. "The Islamic Republic of Iran has made its own decision and in the nuclear case, God willing, with patience and power, will continue its path," Khamenei was quoted as saying by state television. Rating: 5
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