Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment

[Psycho4Bud]

TEHRAN, Iran Aug 21, 2006 (AP)â?? Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Monday that Tehran will continue to pursue nuclear technology, despite a U.N. Security Council deadline to suspend uranium enrichment by the end of the month or face the threat of economic and diplomatic sanctions.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran has made its own decision and in the nuclear case, God willing, with patience and power, will continue its path," Khamenei was quoted as saying by state television.

He accused the United States of putting pressure on Iran despite Tehran's assertions that it was not seeking nuclear weapons. "Arrogant powers and the U.S. are putting their utmost pressure on Iran while knowing Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons," he said.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=2337100

Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on 08-21-2006. Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment TEHRAN, Iran Aug 21, 2006 (AP)â?? Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Monday that Tehran will continue to pursue nuclear technology, despite a U.N. Security Council deadline to suspend uranium enrichment by the end of the month or face the threat of economic and diplomatic sanctions. "The Islamic Republic of Iran has made its own decision and in the nuclear case, God willing, with patience and power, will continue its path," Khamenei was quoted as saying by state television. Rating: 5

[Bong30]

Do ya want me to tell ya how I feel.............


I drive 2 japanesse cars............

[thcbongman]

Not surprising......

It'll be interesting what happens next. They should've taken the European incentive deal which provides them the energy they need. Sure they'll be dependent on others for their energy needs, but it'll avoid escalating conflict.

[Bong30]

THC, They dont need energy................

Iran Is FLOATING on oil.

oil = energy


then you ask, why they need nukes? cause we know energy is Hogwash.

[Ozarks]

The fact they didn't take the deal brings their true motives into question. Given the opportunity the leadership in Tehran is going to murder hundreds of thousands if not millions of people...in the name of their God. Israel 1st, the "Great Satan" (us) 2nd.

[Marlboroman]

Oil = blood of the war machine.

Iran may be floating on oil, but there is less and less oil on the earth.

Since our war machines dont operate without oil, in the end, he who has control of the oil wins.

If Iran were to use nuclear power that would effectively cut oil usage, adding years onto the life span of the defense for that country. Not to mention the nuclear deterent.

Maybe you dont want Iran to exist, but im sure the citizens of that country hold a different opinion.
Dont bother telling me how that opinion is to see me dead Bong, ive heard this enough from you, I know where you stand on this.

It doesnt make sense to me to think that Iran would spend millions to develope nuclear power, to only get nuclear weapons to then drop them on their neighbor, not only killing millions of a so called enemy, but also endangering the lives of their own citizens via fallout. Useing the nuclear weapons as a deterent holds much more power than actually dropping them.

Not only that, I dont think Iran has the capability to withstand the onslaught of the militaries that would then invade and take control.

To drop a nuclear weapon on another country would effectively write the death sentence for the controlling power on Iran.

Do you think they want to be outsted from their seats of power?

I think they know better, they know that dropping nuclear weapons, they would be commiting suicide, not only for themselves but the millions of citizens within their borders.

If their goal is to bring about total islamic control of the world, how does commiting suicide help that cause?

How can someone bring about haveing control, if they are bringing about their own death?

Peace.

[Bong30]

MM
They dont care about killing people.....shit look at the Iran Iraq war....


How many Iranians died? They dont care about there own people, let alone us infidels.


You cant handle..... they want nukes to kill the jews. <<< so easy.


its ok.....you just are living in a fantasy, socialist, bullshit world.

The President of Iran.... Believes this why dont you?

Reappearance
Shi'as cite various references from the Qur'an and reports, or Hadith, from the Muhammad and the twelve Shi'a Imams with regards to the reappearance of Muhammad al-Mahdi who will, in accordance with God's command, bring justice and peace to the world by establishing Islam throughout the world.

The prophet Muhammad is reported to have said:
"During the last times, my people will be afflicted with terrible and unprecedented calamities and misfortunes from their rulers, so much so that this vast earth will appear small to them. Persecution and injustice will engulf the earth. The believers will find no shelter to seek refuge from these tortures and injustices. At such a time, God will raise from my progeny a man who will establish peace and justice on this earth in the same way as it had been filled with injustice and distress."

Shi'as believe that when Muhammad al-Mahdi will reappear, the prophet Isa (Jesus) will also reappear and that he will pray behind al-Mahdi.

[Ozarks]

Oil = blood of the war machine.

Iran may be floating on oil, but there is less and less oil on the earth.

Since our war machines dont operate without oil, in the end, he who has control of the oil wins.

If Iran were to use nuclear power that would effectively cut oil usage, adding years onto the life span of the defense for that country. Not to mention the nuclear deterent.

Maybe you dont want Iran to exist, but im sure the citizens of that country hold a different opinion.
Dont bother telling me how that opinion is to see me dead Bong, ive heard this enough from you, I know where you stand on this.

It doesnt make sense to me to think that Iran would spend millions to develope nuclear power, to only get nuclear weapons to then drop them on their neighbor, not only killing millions of a so called enemy, but also endangering the lives of their own citizens via fallout. Useing the nuclear weapons as a deterent holds much more power than actually dropping them.

Not only that, I dont think Iran has the capability to withstand the onslaught of the militaries that would then invade and take control.

To drop a nuclear weapon on another country would effectively write the death sentence for the controlling power on Iran.

Do you think they want to be outsted from their seats of power?

I think they know better, they know that dropping nuclear weapons, they would be commiting suicide, not only for themselves but the millions of citizens within their borders.

If their goal is to bring about total islamic control of the world, how does commiting suicide help that cause?

How can someone bring about haveing control, if they are bringing about their own death?

Peace.

That all makes prefect sense if they think like you, which unfortunately they don't.
The Iranian leadership is perfectly willing kill themselves and their own children to start the world war that will cause the Messiah (Islamic in this case) to return, again this is all in the name of their God. If they get a bomb they'll use it. Paradise is just around the corner.

Islamic authoritarians love death and loathe life.

That is why MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) worked with the Soviet Union. Communist leaders love life -- they loved their money, their power, their dachas, their mistresses, their fine wines -- and were hardly prepared to give all that up for Marx. But Iran's current leaders celebrate dying, and MAD may not work, because from our perspective, they are indeed mad. MAD only works with the sane.

There is much less you can do against people who value dying more than living.

Here's the Article in total,
[URL="http://http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/03/islamic_threat_is_greater_than.html"]

[Breukelen advocaat]

Here's the Article in total,
[URL="http://http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/03/islamic_threat_is_greater_than.html"]

This article is worth having in total. Funny thing is, Prager is a religous person, Jewish, and correct about the religous extremism being a greater threat than the Communists or Nazis were, or are. I've read and heard Dennis Prager for years, and rarely agreed more with his editorials than now. He's getting clearer in his thinking, but I'm not with him on everything he espouses, especially regarding his respect for Judeo-Christian values.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/03/islamic_threat_is_greater_than.html

Islamic Threat Is Greater Than German & Soviet Threats Were
By Dennis Prager

Only four types of individuals can deny the threat to civilization posed by the violence-supporting segment of Islam: the willfully naive, America-haters, Jew-haters and those afraid to confront evil.

Anyone else sees the contemporary reality -- the genocidal Islamic regime in Sudan; the widespread Muslim theological and emotional support for the killing of a Muslim who converts to another religion; the absence of freedom in Muslim-majority countries; the widespread support for Palestinians who randomly murder Israelis; the primitive state in which women are kept in many Muslim countries; the celebration of death; the "honor killings" of daughters; and so much else that is terrible in significant parts of the Muslim world -- knows that civilized humanity has a new evil to fight.

Just as previous generations had to fight Nazism, communism and fascism, our generation has to confront militant Islam.

And whereas there were unique aspects to those evils, there are two unique aspects to the evil emanating from the Islamic world that render this latest threat to humanity particularly difficult to overcome.

One is the number of people who believe in it. This is a new phenomenon among organized evils. Far fewer people believed in Nazism or in communism than believe in Islam generally or in authoritarian Islam specifically. There are one billion Muslims in the world. If just 10 percent believe in the Islam of Hamas, the Taliban, the Sudanese regime, Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism, bin Ladin, Islamic Jihad, the Finley Park Mosque in London or Hizbollah -- and it is inconceivable that only one of 10 Muslims supports any of these groups' ideologies -- that means a true believing enemy of at least 100 million people.

Outside of Germany, how many people believed in Nazism? Outside of Japan, who believed in Japanese imperialism and militarism? And outside of universities, the arts world or Hollywood, how many people believed in Soviet-style totalitarianism?

A far larger number of people believe in Islamic authoritarianism than ever believed in Marxism. Virtually no one living in Marxist countries believed in Marxism or communism. Likewise, far fewer people believed in Nazism, an ideology confined largely to one country for less than one generation. This is one enormous difference between the radical Islamic threat to our civilization and the two previous ones.

But there is yet a second difference that is at least as significant and at least as frightening: Nazis and Communists wanted to live and feared death; Islamic authoritarians love death and loathe life.

That is why MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) worked with the Soviet Union. Communist leaders love life -- they loved their money, their power, their dachas, their mistresses, their fine wines -- and were hardly prepared to give all that up for Marx. But Iran's current leaders celebrate dying, and MAD may not work, because from our perspective, they are indeed mad. MAD only works with the sane.

There is much less you can do against people who value dying more than living.

The existence of an unprecedentedly large number of people wishing to destroy decent civilization as we know it -- and who celebrate their own deaths -- poses a threat the likes of which no civilization in history has had to confront.

The evils committed by Nazism and Communism were, of course, greater than those committed by radical Islam. There has been no Muslim Gulag and no Muslim Auschwitz.

But the threat is far more serious.

[psychocat]

It's simply a question of hypocrisy for me , how can the country with the largest nuclear arsenal (America) possibly have the gall to say who can and cannot have nuclear weapons.
If I remember rightly Isreal refused to sign up to the treaty and yet they weren't forced to stay non-nuclear,, double standards from the US and UN I would say.

Israel - Israel is not a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and refuses to officially confirm or deny having a nuclear arsenal, or to having developed nuclear weapons, or even to having a nuclear weapons program. Although Israel claims that the Negev Nuclear Research Center near Dimona is a "research reactor," no scientific reports based on work done there have ever been published. Extensive information about the program in Dimona was also disclosed by technician Mordechai Vanunu in 1986. Imagery analysts can identify weapon bunkers, mobile missile launchers, and launch sites in satellite photographs. It is believed to possess nuclear weapons by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Israel may have tested a nuclear weapon along with South Africa in 1979 (see Vela Incident). According to the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Federation of American Scientists, they may possess 300-400 weapons, a figure which would put them above the median in the declared list.